Wednesday, May 20, 2009

US Military Burn Bibles/Bodybuilders Flee

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Okay, the return of Vinyl Man who has received thousands of hits on this site.

Leuther, Germany (photo from trekearth.com)

Bibles burned by United States military

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From CNN:

'UPDATED: 03:32 AM EDT 05.20.09

Military personnel threw away, and ultimately burned, confiscated Bibles that were printed in the two most common Afghan languages amid concern they would be used to try to convert Afghans, a Defense Department spokesman said Tuesday.

The unsolicited Bibles sent by a church in the United States were confiscated about a year ago at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan because military rules forbid troops of any religion from proselytizing while deployed there, Lt. Col. Mark Wright said.

Such religious outreach can endanger American troops and civilians in the devoutly Muslim nation, Wright said.

"The decision was made that it was a 'force protection' measure to throw them away, because, if they did get out, it could be perceived by Afghans that the U.S. government or the U.S. military was trying to convert Muslims," Wright told CNN on Tuesday.

Troops at posts in war zones are required to burn their trash, Wright said...'

'This decision came to light recently, after the Al Jazeera English network aired video of a group prayer service and chapel sermon that a reporter said suggested U.S. troops were being encouraged to spread Christianity.

The military denied that earlier this month, saying much in the video was taken out of context.

"This was irresponsible and dangerous journalism sensationalizing year-old footage of a religious service for U.S. soldiers on a U.S. base and inferring that troops are evangelizing to Afghans," Col. Gregory Julian said.

The military says a soldier at Bagram received the Bibles and didn't realize he wasn't allowed to hand them out. In the Al Jazeera video, which shows the Bibles at the prayer service, an unnamed soldier says members of his church raised money for them.

The chaplain later corrected the soldier and confiscated the Bibles, Wright said.

Military officers considered sending the Bibles back to the church, he said, but they worried the church would turn around and send them to another organization in Afghanistan -- giving the impression that they had been distributed by the U.S. government.

That could lead to violence against troops or U.S. civilians, Wright said...'

'Military personnel threw away, and ultimately burned, confiscated Bibles that were printed in the two most common Afghan languages amid concern they would be used to try to convert Afghans, a Defense Department spokesman said Tuesday.

Hmm, this is a good indicator for my young American friends out there that combining the careers of overseas US military member and aspiring hyper-charismatic radio/televangelist would not be a very good idea.

It is a terrible thing to burn Bibles. I certainly would have found a better answer for the problem even if it meant having Bibles shipped or driven out of Afghanistan.

Imagine if someone did mix the careers of being a member of the US military with being a hyper-charismatic televangelist in training, the prayer towels, holy water, and prayer letters from the mail that would have had to be trashed.

Perhaps burning some books with heretical teaching might not be all bad. But, please understand I would rather collect books with heretical teaching for research than burn them. I have a few in my library (fill in the blank) that could be easily be burned on theological grounds but my fireplace is a gas fire and it would make too much of a mess in the living room and as stated I like collecting books for research purposes.

Also, if one fell over at the hands of a hyper-charismatic soldier, would it be because the person on the ground was healed, stabbed, or shot?

Could the future televangelist in training heal one that he or she just stabbed or shot?


'Troops at posts in war zones are required to burn their trash, Wright said.'

I would never consider Bibles trash.

'Military officers considered sending the Bibles back to the church, he said, but they worried the church would turn around and send them to another organization in Afghanistan -- giving the impression that they had been distributed by the U.S. government.

That could lead to violence against troops or U.S. civilians, Wright said.'
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Hmm, this sounds tricky. This may put quite a few restrictions on evangelism in that area.

Bodybuilders 'split' when they see drug testers

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CBC

From CBC:

'Last Updated: Monday, May 18, 2009 4:00 PM ET

The Belgian bodybuilding championship has been cancelled after doping officials showed up and all the competitors fled.'

Oh no a 'roid' filled bodybuilding competition was cancelled...what a loss.

The Mr. Belgium Pageant was cancelled.


'The bodybuilders just grabbed their gear and ran off when a doping official came into the room, according to officials.

"I have never seen anything like it and hope never to see anything like it again," said doping official Hans Cooman.

Twenty bodybuilders were entered in the weekend competition...

Belgium's bodybuilding federation did not dispute the facts, but said it could not explain why the competitors had suddenly rushed off...

During testing of bodybuilding events last year, doping authorities of northern Belgium's Flanders region found that three-quarters of the competitors tested positive.'
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This would be the result if you mixed dog shows with bodybuilding shows.

46 comments:

  1. I sympathize with the US military on having to destroy the Bibles. There is so much politics in fighting wars and the last thing they need right now is another accusation or blemish against American soldiers and their conduct.
    -Major Payne-

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  2. I am tired of all this steroid nonsense. Instead of having competitions with drug tests, why not have competitions where anything goes like steroids and growth hormones and have other contests in which competitors have to be drug free. Do you really think that all of these pro bodybuilders don't do Crank?? C'mon its so obvious that these guys and girls are walking drug stores!! ADMIT IT PEOPLE!!
    -Mr. Bigg-

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  3. Thanks, Major.

    I would neither destroy Bibles nor evangelize in an offensive way if I worked for a military within a Muslim country.

    General Mills

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  4. It seems like an intelligent idea of yours to preserve writings and books that are at odds with the Holy Bible and considered heretical. There could be much to learn from these works, and they could very well give more light and credibility to the accuracy of the Bible and its characters.
    -Theo Theology-

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  5. Mr. Bigg,

    Perhaps we should have a Mr. Roid Universe pageant.

    Cheers.

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  6. Yes, I will leave book burning to the fundamentalists, both the sort of good ones and more so bad ones.

    However, in some extreme cases certain abusive material should be burned, but my goal in life is not to be a book burner.

    Cheers.

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  7. Perhaps the military was simply demonstrating America's collective disdain for the Bible.

    As for not burning heretical books, my wife has been trying to convince me to throw out my collection of Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormon books. I use them from time to time in speaking with people from both groups.

    Please tell me those roid pictures were doctored, no pun intended.

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  8. 'Perhaps the military was simply demonstrating America's collective disdain for the Bible.'

    Stan, the same thought came into my mind when I initially saw the headline on CNN and then looked it up online.

    Burning the Bibles was not the only solution and was not even a good solution in my opinion.

    We agree on keeping heretical books for research purposes.

    We don't burn we learn.

    'Please tell me those roid pictures were doctored, no pun intended.'

    I reason they are and my bodybuilder friend Bobby Buff states that they are. He knows something of bodybuilding within the use of roids and without roids.

    Cheers, Stan.:)

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  9. It saddens me that Bibles were burned especially by the US military i agree i think that was a little drastic, I believe something else could have been done.

    God bless Russ :)

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  10. I agree, Tamela.

    Hey, we seem to be discussing the subject of 'burning' lately. There is this story and also the very much sunburned 'Leather Lady' image that I placed on Facebook that you and others commented on (see also latest comments on thekingpin68).

    Cheers.:)

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  11. I accidentally activated the demographics documentary video from the previous post just before starting the John McLaughlin acoustic guitar video, the result being Johnny playing background music to the documentary. Kind of strange and funny. It doesn't fit at all.
    Re: burning bibles - I suppose I would not have accepted any assignment that would forbid any evangelizing in the first place. Not that I'm a big evangelist or anything, but one needs to be open to do God's work as He calls.

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  12. Well, you are non-resistant Mennonite anyway (sort of) and would not join the military...and so as Inspector Clouseau would state, 'problem sol-ved'.

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  13. Russ,

    When my daughter was deployed to Iraq, the instructions for sending care packages included all kinds of dangerous items, such as fireworks, explosives and of course the most dangerous of all: Bibles, Christian books, tracts, crosses or other religious items.

    As to your question on how the talent competition went at the bodybuilding contest - it was cancelled when several contestants were caught lip-syncing.

    Larry E.

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  14. 'and of course the most dangerous of all: Bibles, Christian books, tracts, crosses or other religious items.'

    Yes, these could be considered offensive by persons in occupied Muslim countries.

    Lip-syncing (or lip-synching)...good one Larry.

    Cheers.;)

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  15. Getting that big from body building is nasty. Plus once you can no longer keep up with it your going to turn to mush. Plus you cannot really fight if needed, that big you have no speed. Rick b

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  16. Thanks, Rick.

    I reason that those photos are exaggerated.

    I have a different take on strength and mass in fighting. I think they are major factors as are fighting ability, including speed. Good point on speed by the way, Rick.

    Basically, I reason some guys are so large and strong that even without excellent technical ability they could win fights largely based on strength, raw striking power and mass...look at Brock Lesnar, for example.

    I would gather many UFC fans would think that the UFC guys would wipe the floor with often larger WWE guys in street fights but I seriously have my doubts. The key in street fighting is to often use techniques and surroundings not allowed in many ring matches (weapons, elbows, biting, gouging, strikes to throat and neck) as many online instructors have correctly pointed out.

    In the ring with rules, yes the UFC guys would primarily defeat untrained WWE guys, but without rules on the street it would sometimes be a different story.

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  17. What a travesty, that a nation that once was a world leader in sending out missionaries is now burning Bibles...even the Chaplain had them burned! This is a sign of the direction that America is headed. It may not be long before all Bibles in America are confiscated and burned.

    I wish some of the soldiers (and especially the Chaplains!) had the guts...and the zeal from the Holy Spirit...to defy those Satanic orders and put Jesus first, and have enough concern and enough of a burden for souls to be saved from Hell, and hand the Bibles out to Muslims anyway! So what if it puts your career or your life in danger? Historically, Christians have risked that for 2000 years! Those who burned Bibles will have to answer for their actions when they stand before God. I could only pray that, if I were in that situation, I would have enough guts, and enough love for my Lord, and enough of a desire to see souls saved from everlasting damnation in the Lake of Fire, to defy those wicked, evil commands that came straight from the pit of Hell!

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  18. I seriously think that it may possibly be very soon that Christian evangelization may become illegal in America. When such a thing occurs, I pray that I will follow God's command instead of man's law!

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  19. I once burned a copy of the Book of Mormon that I owned. I sometimes almost wish I still had it for reference, but really, its such a complete work of total fiction, that it is pretty much useless for reference or study.

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  20. If I had every publication ever published by the Watchtower, now that would be helpful, because I could show some Jehovah's Witnesses how their prophets have made false prophecies again and again and again, and how they have flip-flopped in their doctrine time and time again. Of course, I already brought that fact up to one Jehovah's Witness, and their excuse is that they are merely men, and men make mistakes, and they have learned from their mistakes. Very similar to the excuse that Darwinian Evolutionists use.

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  21. Regarding strength and size, if you get hit or kicked by a big guy, it's going to hurt more than if it was a little guy...unless the little guy has good technique (like Bruce Lee did). Speed also increases the force of the hit/kick.

    When I was on the wrestling team in High School, the big guys were generally harder to wrestle, because of their size and strength. And I got my ribs cracked in a scissor hold by a guy who was short, but held school records in weightlifting, and his legs were huge and very powerful (as were his chest, lats, etc.). However, the best guy on our team was one of the smallest guys, who simply had years of experience.

    When I was in kickboxing, and we always did full-contact in a homemade ring, size and strength did not help that much, except for possibly being able to take a punch or kick better, without getting hurt.

    Regarding UFC vs. WWE, at least one advantage that the UFC would have would be that they would be used to being hit, and used to hitting/kicking with full force. The WWE guys would be used to pulling their punches and faking it, so that could be a huge disadvantage for them, because you tend to do what you're used to. Tim Larkin even pointed that out in one of his articles, and I know it to be true, because when I was taking Shotokan, we were taught to stop an inch away from their face and body, which I got very good at, but I was then unable to actually hit. When I sparred with a Tae Kwon Do guy in my back yard during that time, he was hitting and kicking me with full force, but I kept stopping short of actually contacting him, and I couldn't break that habit, and I couldn't make myself actually hit him, no matter how hard I tried. Only when I took kickboxing and started fighting in full-contact mode did I break that habit.

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  22. Thanks very much, Jeff.

    I would not in general terms, witness/evangelize on company time as I believe that although my higher calling is always the Lord, the Lord also would not want me to typically take away time from my employer and work on something that is not for the company. I do realize there are emergency situations that do arise and in those cases I would do what must be done.

    I can witness/evangelize to others that I meet on company time, after company time.

    I would not however, burn Bibles.

    I have a copy of the Book of Mormon and can use it as reference.

    I have a New World Translation and also Search.

    'Regarding strength and size, if you get hit or kicked by a big guy, it's going to hurt more than if it was a little guy...unless the little guy has good technique (like Bruce Lee did). Speed also increases the force of the hit/kick.'

    Yes, and if a bigger guy has technique and speed close to what someone like Bruce Lee had, the larger man may as well hit harder and have the use of more strength and mass.

    'Regarding UFC vs. WWE, at least one advantage that the UFC would have would be that they would be used to being hit, and used to hitting/kicking with full force. The WWE guys would be used to pulling their punches and faking it, so that could be a huge disadvantage for them, because you tend to do what you're used to.'

    A good point, Jeff. But, often larger size and more muscle will allow one to naturally take more physical punishment which naturally will tend to favour the WWE guys.

    I have only been in one real fight as an adult but was hit in the face with a bottle and barely felt it because of adrenaline. My size from doing years of bag work and some sparring assisted me to be more able to take a serious shot.

    I also reason that my years of weapons work and light but focused sparring have been beneficial, especially since changing my techniques from traditional karate and related to more street fighting orientated.

    We will do in a real fight what we practice which the experts also teach. If we can maintain composure, that is.

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  23. It's sad and ridiculous that we have to be so careful and protective with the koran or the Muslims would throw a fit (and sue!) and yet we're forced to burn Bibles--disgusting!

    Speaking of disgusting, even if (some of) those photos are fake, I just can't look at body builders without wanting to throw up.

    You can't have enough John McLaughlin. Did I mention I got the latest (and only?) Jeff Beck DVD the other week? I'm not a huge Beck fan, but being able to watch him (and the band) is incredible.

    Enjoy your worship tomorrow, Russ.

    GGM

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  24. 'It's sad and ridiculous that we have to be so careful and protective with the koran or the Muslims would throw a fit (and sue!) and yet we're forced to burn Bibles--disgusting!'

    I can understand the need to protect the troops, but burning the Bibles is disrespectful to God and unnecessary.

    The fakes are a good satirical presentation on bodybuidling.;)

    Please enjoy your Jeff Beck DVD, GGM.

    Cheers.:)

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  25. Related to what GGM said:


    Muslim anger ignites violent new responseBy Iason Athanasiadis
    THE WASHINGTON TIMES

    Monday, May 25, 2009
    Far-right-wing vigilantes burned a makeshift mosque in Athens over the weekend after Muslim immigrants in Athens attacked police with rocks and bottles over an incident in which a policeman reportedly defaced a Koran.

    Although Greece has a history of political violence from radical leftists and anarchists, sectarian bloodletting represents an entirely modern phenomenon.

    The latest incident began with a policeman who made an identification spot check on an immigrant from Iraq. When word spread that the policeman had ripped and stomped on the suspect's Koran, things got ugly.

    Chanting "God is great" and waving leather-bound copies of Islam's holy book, about 1,000 Muslim immigrants demonstrated with a march on Parliament Friday.

    When the crowd dwindled to about 300, remaining protesters began throwing rocks and bottles at police and smashing windows at a luxury hotel in central Syntagma Square, according to an account by the Associated Press.

    Far-right-wing vigilantes replied over the weekend by setting fire to a Muslim prayer hall. Taken together, the incidents represent some of the worst sectarian violence witnessed in modern Greece.

    A spokesman for the Greek police claimed that the policeman did not rip up a Koran, but a folded and glued sheet of paper containing unidentifiable writing in Arabic.

    "The isolated and under-inquiry incident does not excuse rioting by individuals committed to damaging citizens property and seriously disturbing the citys social and economic life," said Christos Markogiannakis, the deputy interior minister. "The state will not permit such radical behavior."

    Successive scandals have rocked the countrys beleaguered police force since a policeman fatally shot a teenage schoolboy in December, sparking two weeks of nationwide riots. Those riots, however, were not sectarian-based.

    Unrest in Greece's community of Muslim immigrants is something new, analysts say.

    "For so many years, they've been scared and defensive," said Takis Geros, a lecturer of anthropology of the Middle East at Panteion University. "To suddenly come out in broad daylight with their faces exposed and trash 75 cars indicates a massive change in attitude."

    Hundreds of thousands of immigrants from Muslim Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia cross into Greece illegally every year from neighboring Turkey or by sea.

    Social tensions have risen in recent years as the racial and religious makeup of this formerly homogeneous Greek Orthodox Christian country shifted to a multiethnic, multireligious society.

    "Sometimes the humiliation is such that were made to feel by Greeks as if were not human beings," said Ejazulhaq Syed, a representative of the Pakistani community in Athens who has lived in Greece for 35 years. "But the violence [against us] had nothing to do with religion but with the bad economic situation and having too many foreigners in Greece."

    Today, an estimated 1 million of Greeces 11 million people are foreign, and second-generation immigrant children are exposed to exclusionary practices by the educational system and labor market.

    Attacks on foreigners by vigilante groups were on the rise before the Saturday incident, in which suspected rightists set the makeshift mosque on fire in the St. Panteleimon district of Athens, which is heavily populated by immigrants.

    Five Bangladeshi nationals were reportedly injured.

    Though legislation has been passed through the Greek Parliament to allow for the building of a mosque for Athens estimated 400,000 Muslim residents, construction has yet to begin.

    Muslims worship in unofficial prayer spaces in rented apartments and stores.

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  26. Home Bible Studies are already starting to become illegal in the United States, without a permit:

    Home: No place for Bible studyAnd people are getting arrested for evangelizing:

    Campus evangelists clash with police

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  27. Thankfully, I have not heard of any Bible studies being harassed by governments here in BC.

    However, my friend in Bulgaria tells me that there although one can attend a non-Eastern Orthodox Church on Sundays, one must have a permit to have a non-Eastern Orthodox Bible study.

    Thanks, Jeff.

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  28. John McLaughlin is a very talented guitarist and his style is very creative and incredibly interesting to listen to!
    -Guitar Geek-

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  29. In regards to the article on having a Bible Study is seemingly illegal,why is that?? Shouldn't the rights of all people be upheld and respected and if not that, at least tolerated!!
    -It's me Walter-

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  30. Dear Geek Walter Thomas Franklin,

    Cheers.

    Perhaps there is more to the Bible Study controversy than explained. How did the Bible Study become known in the first place?

    A government official knocked on the door...but in how many homes was this done?

    This door knocking policy seems strange. Were they tipped off or on a witch hunt, or was it just random?

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  31. Those photos are so crazy - I hope they're not real.

    That burning Bibles "solution" seems pretty extreme - but extreme actions taken by people across the world and throughout history against the Bible are not that uncommon.

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  32. Cheers, Fikalo.

    I reason the bodybuilding photos are doctored.;)

    Extreme? Agreed.

    The Bible is controversial for several reasons of course, which I will not attempt to name exhaustively. It contains God's word through chosen persons. It is a book that explains that God saves (some) persons to everlasting life within a corrupted world filled with people that by (fallen) nature without the grace of God through faith and the work the Holy Spirit would never want to be saved by God as God really is through Christ, the one who atoned for persons and was resurrected.

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  33. What do you make of Obama's efforts to ban the use of the words "terror" and "terrorism" from his administration's lexicon? The administration prefers to call attacks on terrorists "overseas contingency operations." And terrorist attacks at home are referred to as "man-caused disasters." These new terms are apparently considered less offensive to terrorists. The word "terrorist" is now politically incorrect. I think this is related to the Bible burnings, in the sense that the U.S. government is afraid of offending extremist Muslims.

    Imagine appointing to a top policy position at the Defense Department, a columnist from the Los Angeles Times who believes U.S. policies were to blame for the 9/11 attacks by al-Qaida. That would be Rosa Brooks, who also previously referred to Obama's immediate predecessor as "our torturer in chief " and a "psychotic who need(s) treatment" while comparing Bush's arguments for waging a war on terrorism to Adolf Hitler's use of political propaganda. Rosa Brooks said: "Don't fight needless wars; don't go blundering around in countries where you don't know the language, history or culture...and, most of all, don't imagine that military force can solve fundamentally political problems." This, too, I think, fits in with the burning of Bibles so as not to offend our enemies.

    Obama presides – legitimately or illegitimately – over a nation founded on the ideals of "independence" and "national sovereignty." Yet, in a speech given in Prague, what was his prescription for making the world a better place? "All nations must come together to build a stronger, global regime," he said.
    I think this, as well, fits in with Obama's not wanting to offend Muslims in the Middle East. After all, if there is ever going to be a one-world government, we've got to all come together as one! We can't be offending each other! If those Muslims might get mad because we're trying to save their souls, well, then, we'd better stop trying to save their souls! If they burn in Hell forever in horrible torment, then that's fine; but Heaven forbid that we should ever offend them or make them mad at us!

    Instead of the men and women voluntarily serving in the U.S. Armed Forces as being considered heroes, they are now considered as dangerous potential threats. While there are hundreds of thousands of U.S. citizens voluntarily serving in arms overseas, the Obama administration put out a report to law enforcement agencies throughout the country to be wary of returning veterans, because they might be more inclined to get involved in "right-wing extremist" activities. So now, not only are we cow-towing in fear to our enemies and those who are a threat to our safety by burning Bibles so as not to offend them, but the men and women who voluntarily fight for the U.S. are now seen as potential enemies.

    The more the U.S. bans God, the more it bans common sense, as well.

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  34. 'The word "terrorist" is now politically incorrect. I think this is related to the Bible burnings, in the sense that the U.S. government is afraid of offending extremist Muslims.'

    Thanks, Jeff.

    I think the term 'terrorist' is adequate. There does seem to be an aspect of fear of Muslims in the Bible burning episode.

    'If they burn in Hell forever in horrible torment, then that's fine; but Heaven forbid that we should ever offend them or make them mad at us!'

    Obama and the government's concern of course is not spiritual judgment. As stated previously, I view Obama as a political pragmatist. He is more left leaning than I would like.

    Russ:)

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  35. I stated on Facebook in regard to the San Diego Bible study story:

    SD county is much larger than my town of Maple Ridge ( in Greater Vancouver) and I would doubt very much, for instance, that Ridge would send around an official or officials to knock on doors to find out if meetings were going on in private premises.

    I did the Canada Census is 2006 while wearing ID on my shirt and I was given my fair share of flak by people in their place of residence, although some others offered me drinks. One guy (actually my neigbhour, but he did not know it) tried to sic his dog on me, but his wife stopped him. I think most local governments would avoid as much as possible having to potentially bother and harass people at their place of residence as it can be a real negative. News gets in the local papers. I would have to warn people that if they did not complete the census the RCMP may accompany my manager the next time they met. What fun for me when I had to tell that to a Hells' Angel type.

    Perhaps these people with the Bible Study were targeted.

    If it was random, the County should find something better to do with taxpayer money. If it was targeted it is wrong on many levels.

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  36. Perhaps these people with the Bible Study were targeted.

    Interestingly, that is the same county where firefighters were forced to participate in a Gay Pride Parade against their will, and "were sexually harassed through lewd cat calls and obscene gestures at the event, which was replete with sexual displays and graphic images. The firefighters then suffered harassment and retaliation after complaining to superiors about the parade.":
    http://www.chronwatch-america.com/articles/4486/1/Firefighters-Forced-to-Participate-in-quotGay-Pride-Paradequot-Win-Heated-Legal-Battle/Page1.html


    This link says that it shows the check list for the permit needed in order to hold a Bible Study in the confines of your own home in San Diego County, California (however, I see absolutely NO mention of anything about having a Home Bible Study!):
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6518689/Required-Permit-for-Bible-Study-in-San-Diego

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  37. At one company where I worked, I had a desk in the corner of a room. I had gospel tracts thumb-tacked to a bulletin board above my desk. I was ordered by my boss to take them down, since the owner saw them as offensive.

    A couple years later, in a nearby city, I was handing out gospel tracts outside at a city festival to passersby. I was told by one of the officials working there to stop passing them out.

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  38. "Protests following the passage of California's Proposition 8, which defined marriage as between one man and one woman, made news headlines, but the Pacific Justice Institute reports a growing number of cases where those opposed to the ballot measure have taken out their anger more quietly: by harassing – and even firing – employees who voted for it."

    "Californians have been shocked by the aggressiveness of radical homosexual activists who have ousted several individuals from their jobs and livelihoods based solely on their support for traditional marriage," states Brad Dacus, president of PJI, on the group's website. "These tactics of fear and intimidation in retaliation for supporting a lawful ballot measure are completely unacceptable."

    "Unfortunately, this is far from an isolated case," asserts a recent PJI statement."


    Voted For Prop 8? You're Fired!

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  39. 'Interestingly, that is the same county where firefighters were forced to participate in a Gay Pride Parade against their will, and "were sexually harassed through lewd cat calls and obscene gestures at the event, which was replete with sexual displays and graphic images. The firefighters then suffered harassment and retaliation after complaining to superiors about the parade.'

    Conservatives and Christians need to stick together to politically and legally guarantee within the Western world our basic rights of freedom and expression.

    This includes, within reason, rights and freedoms within the context of the secular workplace.

    Thank you, Jeff.

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  40. UPDATE: Deadline set in banned Bible study case"Last week, WND broke the story about the case that apparently was sparked by a complaint from a visitor to a residence of one of the Joneses' neighbors.

    The sequence of events developed this way.

    "On April 10, 2009, Good Friday, a female county employee came to the Joneses' residence. The county employee appeared in the front yard and proceeded to take pictures of our clients' home," the letter said. "She noticed the Joneses' daughters in the front yard and asked to speak with their mother. Although she did not provide any paper work or identification, subsequent information obtained by the WCLP leads us to believe that the county employee who went to the Joneses' residence was Code Enforcement Officer Cherie Cham."

    "They were targeting our clients' religious exercise," he said."

    "The letter said a group that averages about 15 in attendance clearly does not involve a "religious assembly."

    The county definition for that is "public assembly such as customarily occurs in synagogues, temples, and churches."

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  41. I thought it could be a complaint from a neighbour or visitor and someone on Facebook suggested it could be an anonymous complaint.

    Cheers, Jeff.

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  42. Now I'm going to have nightmares (re: the bodybuilder photos).

    [shudder]

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