Friday Bullets: Non-exhaustive, afternoon thoughts on this classic problem

Preface

• Over the years I have seen and analyzed, a few of these videos with this type of scenario.

• The traditional 'striking', 'hard art', martial arts, practitioner, being demonstrated as useless against a grappler in a studio situation.

• As a teenager, I quit karate after 1.5 years, realizing there was just too many problems with its uses. 

• At the time, my issue with karate, kung fu and taekwondo, was their lack of street fighting techniques.

• But videos such as this highlight the lack of ground fighting defence, knowledge. 

• I am not a martial arts expert, I am proficient.

• Besides the karate, I have paid online training from a MMA trainer its regards to grappling and stand up fighting. 

• I have studied street fighting, including the extensive use of weapons for several years. 

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• I absolutely will not claim either a win or loss for me against a good grappler, such as in the video, but here are some opinions...

• The stance of the Wing Chun, kung fu fighter is way too close together.

• The legs of the Wing Chun fighter need to be more apart to make it more difficult for the grappler to successfully shoot out and take his legs out, for a take down and ground fighting.

• As the opponent the Wing Chun fighter is facing is a BJJ, Brazilian jiu-jitsu, grappler, this shoot attack, or charge should have been much better prepared for by this Wing Chun fighter.

• This could have been a physically devastating or even fatal mistake in a street fighting event.

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• Besides a wider, more prepared stance, here the attacked has as an opportunity to use elbows to the head, and perhaps neck, of the grappler.

• The shoot or charge from a grappler, is in-part, designed to tie up the hands and legs of the opponent.

• In other words, take away punching and kicking power, punches and kicks.

• So, yes a technique that could be used versus a boxer.

• Mastery of elbow strikes is crucial here in defending this type of charge and not depending on punches and kicks.

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• There are options for from the moves I have been taught and practice.

• The attacker's neck is available for a counter attack, at least, initially.

• A guillotine choke could be used.

• Or perhaps even the gable grip, which could be, in a life or death situation, and legally in your legal jurisdiction, used for joint and bone dislocation for self-defence.

• A rear-naked choke might be used if the opportunity arises for defensive purposes.

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• The Wing Chun practitioner is going down here, and needs to have some knowledge of grappling.

• Much of my study has been grappling defence, but also the use of chokes and strikes while on the ground.

• Similar chokes and strikes that can be used while standing or on the ground.

• This is a hard takedown. 

• If on the street or a park, it could knock out the attacked.

• It could lead to serious injury or death from head and/or neck trauma.

• Quite frankly, in a street situation a grappler moving in for a takedown, needs to watch for a knife or other edged weapon, defence...

• In particular, I study weapons for close in fighting.

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• If the attacked cannot roll away quickly and/or get up and out of this situation...

• The guard has to often, at least, be used as seen in MMA fighting...

Cited: Fight site 'And what distinguishes BJJ from other grappling styles including its progenitor, Judo, is the centrality of the guard. At its most basic, the guard is a position in which one combatant on his back uses his limbs and positioning to keep the combatant on top from dealing damage with strikes or advancing to a better position such as side control, mount, or back mount. Possibilities exist for sweeps (reversals of position where the bottom man ends up on top) and submissions, but the primary goal of the guard player is to avoid taking damage. In sport BJJ the guard is the primary battleground with most high level matches consisting of extended sequences of guard play vs guard passing with standup work and defense from inferior positions being largely perfunctory.'

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• The fight is basically over at this point.

• No suitable counters to the grappler have been offered.

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• Easy submission. 

• Now, I do not recommend this grappling move in a street fight, unless one is certain this is an isolated event. 

• I personally, am not interested in using grappling, sport holds. 

• My grappling holds are designed to choke out the opponent. 

• I have zero interest in studio fighting.

• Ethically, as a law abiding citizen, and biblical Christian, I should only be fighting, legally in self-defence, in a street fighting scenario.

• The grappler could for example, be kicked in the head or otherwise assaulted by a third party while performing that hold and waiting for a submission. 

• Theoretically, the attacker could be stabbed by the attacked if he/she has an available hand, and a high pain tolerance.

• Theoretically, the attacker could be stabbed by the attacked that has submitted once allowed up. 

• There are also, if the attacked has a high pain tolerance and/or is physically strong, the option of biting  (sad but true, not the real meal) the attacker.