Tuesday Bullets: Arne posted this street fight
Photo: Vancouver 2018
• Thank you to Arne, the Norwegian Benny Hill for posting.
• Not sure if this is a real event or fictional (theatrical). I briefly looked for it elsewhere, but could find nothing.
• I won the fight against three in downtown Manchester, England on December 24, 2000.
• But I was still bottled by one of the thugs that threw a (wine?) bottle at me from a significant distance.
• My fault was fighting too defensively, as I was too concerned about being knifed or stabbed with a screwdriver. (Local knowledge was punks carried screwdrivers)
• I kept my distance and I was unhurt by the punches from three, but because I did not move in and take them out, I was cowardly bottled. (A friend had left me to fight alone after I stepped in to assist him).
• To be clear, I absolutely do not seek violence. I obey law and order from the state (Romans 13, 1 Peter 2).
• A few weeks after the Manchester brawl, I emailed a former American operative (hitman?) with a website, that stated I needed to flee in that situation, but there was nowhere to run, and there was up to 30-50 punks it turned out.
• All buildings were closed.
• Or my other option was to take people out, he stated.
• I changed my approach to martial arts and street fighting going forward.
• After I was bottled, I switched to weapons training. (legal knives, legal bats, legal carbon fibre knuckles, etcetera)
• I switched to even more street fighting techniques and less karate.
• I studied several videos and books.
• I sparred with people for years, adding these newer techniques.
• I switched to some key chokes and grips.
• I was eventually trained online with two courses from a New Jersey, MMA trainer.
• IMHO, my punches and kicks were as quick and powerful as my trainer's, but I added as key, rear naked chokes, guillotine chokes, triangle chokes, limited grappling, more elbow strikes, and throws to my martial art/street fighting style.
• If this video is real, this younger man is significantly trained and proficient.
• He did far superior in his fight than I did in my Manchester encounter, because he fought offensively against the untrained and he did not face a weapon.
• But, I have vastly improved.
• I did do that well in my karate, orange belt testing though, in my teens.
• My analysis of the video...
• Twice the 'marine' turns his back on his opponents, he should have instead walked backwards to his vehicle to keep an eye on his opponents.
• As he is very trained, he can easily defeat his opponents, but he should always consider that his opponents might resort to weapons to 'save face'. (As happened to me)
• I hear a foreign language, perhaps French, when the 'marine' returns to the car after being pushed. (A US marine? Hmmm)
• The car plates of the opponents look European...
• The 'marine's' opponent1 foolishly has a very open stance. He instead should be turned to the side with both arms/hands up as a defence. (This fight looks a little too clean for me, but I absolutely do not know it is fictional/theatrical).
• The 'marine' strikes opponent1 with a straight punch it looks like. The attack made easier by the man's open stance.
• The opponent1 should have his hands up to deflect in-part the straight punch.
• My defence at this point, very much changing my style from the Manchester incident, would be to deflect the first punch and counterattack immediately.
• At the same time I would need to move my head out of the way.
• My MMA trainer from New Jersey is an expert on head movement and emphasized this in training. I have added more of this to my style.
• He challenges people on the street to punch him in the head and rarely is hit.
• Another option for the attack against opponent1 is one of two left arm locks (or right arm locks, if the 'marine' punches with the left hand) that I actually learned in my karate days as a teenager.
• I foolishly should have used these in the Manchester fight, but again was concerned about getting too close and getting knifed or stabbed with a screwdriver.
• I also had three people trying to hit me at once.
• Both of the arm locks I practice work well with the left arm locking and a right elbow strike, or perhaps a hook punch to the jaw.
• In can even work well leading to a very effective guillotine choke.
• But dodging that first straight punch is easier said than done with someone as young and fast as this 'marine', that is likely someone from Europe or Eurasia.
• It is reasonable though to turn enough, with arms up, to not take the punch at full force.
• Opponent2 is struck by a front kick, which might indicate the 'marine', has karate training or like.
• I am particularity muscle thick in the stomach area (so said two nurses and MD), and higher up. I am likely to just be stunned by a front kick and therefore able to strike again.
• Not a good strike versus me, IMHO.
• A front kick is not my choice in a fight, it is more of a 'jab' kick. Not a finishing move.
• It is delivered too high by the 'marine', if used, it is better to be targeted at the stomach to wind someone or to strike someone in the genitals.
• Followed up by finishing moves or move.
• I would face a front kick with a side stance. I also practice, taught by my MMA trainer, a deadly takedown move using a gable grip on a caught foot, perhaps from a front kick, or roundhouse kick.
• Easier said than done at the speed that 'marine' is kicking though, but his front kick should not be faced with an open stance by opponent2.
• But, if my gable grip defence from my mentor worked, I would sweep the remaining leg, from the front or back, while simultaneously pulling the attacking leg as hard as I can.
• The attacker still will hit the ground as well...
• This is a devastating defence, if used successfully on a few levels as far as potential damage to leg, knee, hips and head.
• Unless one is 'Bruce Lee' or 'Chuck Norris' like, consider mainly using low kicks and saving high kicks as finishing moves when the opponent is exhausted.
• The 'marine' uses an impressive sweep against opponent3, which is made easier because the opponent has a stance not prepared for attack but only offensive, seems to me.
• I work on keeping my feet apart to avoid sweeps and also takedowns from grapplers that come at me from the shoot.
• The 'marine' next does a quick, very impressive throw against opponent4, I will admit I have not practiced that move.
• But, I do not like how the opponent lands...too securely. I do not want a feet first landing for an opponent in a street fight.
• My throws would be, like the gable grip leg defence, aimed more at a direct knockout using the environment, as opposed to a takedown.
• Not sure the opponent2 wanted to fight any more. He should have stayed further back and ended up being punched with a straight punch and two hook punches.
• The headbutt on opponent1, is an excellent move and is one that I practice.
• Again, the headbutt can be defended by having a side stance.
• Overall, the 'marine' would be a significantly difficult opponent, largely due to the speed of his attack, but the results would be less clean versus opponents well-trained with street fighting techniques.
• The results could also be less clean against opponents physically larger and more muscular than the ones he fought, but he is an impressive fighter for sure.
• Because he did not knock his opponents out, or at least knock one of them out, to scare the others, he did risk facing a weapons attack.
• This problem pointed out to me by the former American operative, after my own incident.
