Quick Philosophical Thoughts On Halloween

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My Enhanced Security Training exam is tomorrow morning. Basically a semester of textbook in 1.5 weeks. I aim for 100% on exams as when I likely miss a perfect mark, I am closer to passing than if I just aim for a pass, which in this case is 60%.

Therefore the short post.

No, I am not pleased with writing academic exams again!

I switched to thesis research degrees largely because I strongly reason they have more academic credibility as far as knowledge and ability to work is related fields!

Driving home from my long commute from central Burnaby, some thoughts:

I have never been that interested in Halloween, even as a young child.

I think I have always been interested in the eating chocolate bar aspect, but not into the dressing up aspect.

As a moderate conservative, Reformed Christian I can agree with some Christian fundamentalists and evangelicals, and others that are opposed to any overt occult celebration at Halloween.

However, just as there are Biblical Christians that are very committed in the range of fundamentalist as in very conservative and conservative, to moderate conservatives and moderate liberals (yes I reason there are some moderate liberal Christians that hold to Biblical essentials), a Christian could be very liberal culturally in regard to Halloween.

I would suggest that a Christian could be very liberal in regard to Halloween, as opposed to very conservative and conservative, and basically not believe in or support the occult background and nature of Halloween.

Instead Halloween can be seen as ministry opportunities both officially and unofficially to reach those in society.

To clarify, I am stating 'very liberal' in disbelief of occultic Halloween, and instead viewing the event as ministry.

I have been thinking that someone may twist my words...perhaps unintentionally.

An example would be officially:

Churches having Halloween parties tonight or Halloween/Reformation Day parties for those in the church and the public.

In particular ministering to children.

An example unofficially:

Christians being involved in what is a rare occurrence in Western society today, as in a rare family event, that many in society participate in.

Christians have the opportunity while taking children out trick or treating, or giving candies at the door to be a witness to those in society.

Even simple kindness and love from a Christian household could make a lasting positive impression.

Or by attending certain parties or events.

In particular ministering to children.

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My professor for EST has some funny quotes. One was that as a security professional (I am not studying to be a security guard, although that is part of the course) one should never state to a child while questioning.

'Hey, kid want some candy'?

Yes, no kidding, I knew that one already...

And in Halloween tradition we ended up discussing the famous Manitoba, Greyhound bus decapitator and cannibal from a few years ago...

You may wish to skip...below the cartoon.

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Mar 05, 2009

CBC

Found not guilty...

'Greyhound bus killer found not criminally responsible'

'Vince Li has been found not criminally responsible for the unprovoked killing and beheading of fellow passenger Timothy McLean on a Greyhound bus last summer. Manitoba Court of Queen's Bench Judge John Scurfield said Thursday that Li, 40, could not be found guilty of murder and is not criminally responsible for the crime because he was mentally ill at the time of the killing.

"These grotesque acts are appalling... but are suggestive of a mental disorder," the judge said. "He did not appreciate the act he committed was wrong."

Li had pleaded not guilty to a charge of second-degree murder. Psychiatric evidence at his trial suggested he is a schizophrenic who suffered a major psychotic episode last July 30 when he fatally stabbed McLean, 22, ate some of the body parts, and cut off McLean's head. For five hours after the killing, Li wandered around on the bus, defiling the body while an RCMP tactical team waited to subdue him. Rather than go to prison, Li will be kept in a secure psychiatric facility, most likely in Selkirk, Man.'

May 23, 2012

CBS

'Greyhound cannibal interviewer: Vince Li thought he was attacking alien in beheading of Tim McLean'

'(AP) WINNIPEG, Manitoba - A Chinese immigrant who beheaded and cannibalized a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus in western Canada four years ago thought he was attacking an alien, according to a mental health advocate who interviewed him.'

My EST professor stated paraphrased: 'Don't take the bus'.

Skimming & Scanning

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Skimming is moving eyes over the text rapidly taking out the key ideas, or technical concepts with a main overview.

Scanning is moving eyes over a vast amount of text in order to find certain main ideas, technical concepts, specific information.

Scanning, by the college's definition, which I think is reasonable would cover more text than skimming. 

For technical work in philosophy, theology, biblical studies, science and mathematics, for example, it would seem academically reasonable to scan and then skim.

At Columbia Bible College one of the concepts first taught by more than one professor, which I rejected outright based on both practical academic common sense and ethics, as in doing my best academically in a course, was that with reading assignments each word needed to be read.

It makes academic tasks unnecessarily tedious.

It makes academic tasks too time consuming.

It leads to greater academic fatigue.

In conclusion, at least in general terms, one needs to be able to take out key information quickly and accurately for better academic results and this is why one should scan and skim read.

I complimented one my two professors at Douglas College, where I am taking a very short three week academic course for a government justice/security licence because she taught skimming or skim reading today.

I posted as a Facebook status update:

'Interesting start of gov. & college justice\security course...classmate bloodies nose walking into glass door...

Bit like police academy....'

I joked with the man next to me in the class from Ivory Coast, in regard to the statements.

He laughed in agreement.

The professors have stated that we are a very intelligent class.

Perhaps true, but there are still some laughs.

Secular Philosophy: Take It & Leave It

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A bridge between Christian and secular philosophy?

Work is looking fairly promising at this point. Besides homecaring full-time, I have been accepted into a very short Justice Institute course at a local college which should connect me to related employment and as well I have some academic degree (PhD) related work that should be on the horizon.

Secular Philosophy: Take It & Leave It

I have commented on my blogs previously in regard to the concept that 'All Truth Is God's Truth', even without using the words necessarily.

Two examples come to mind in which from a Christian perspective, one can find philosophical and practical truth from a source but has to reject much of the information because a secular worldview is supported as opposed to the Biblical, Christian one.

Example One: Secular Relationship Coaches

I remember one incident when I emailed a blog link with a presentation from one of the relationship 'coaches' I used to listen to. He was secular and discussing attitude and like. My blog link is strongly Christian but noted that the motivational aspect of what the coach stated very much encouraged him to make some changes in his life.

However, a major moral, ethical and philosophical difficulty with this teacher and other online secular coaches often is that they do not accept Christian and Hebrew Bible morality and ethics in regard to sexuality.

This is problematic on at least two major fronts.

One, obviously with the different worldview the Christian cannot take all the advice of the coach as it would violate the conscience of the Christian listening/reading and if all the advice was taken would lead to the Christian violating Christian principles.

Two, a problem with such advice is that it is presented toward finding someone of the opposite sex that has a secular worldview.

To attempt to use certain advice with Christian women, for example, if one is a Christian man, would be disastrous and the moral contradictions to Biblical teaching would be obvious.

By the way, for those that think one should just listen to and study Christian teachers on such subjects of relationships, I would respectfully disagree.

In a similar way that I would not want to only study the Bible and Biblical Theology and ignore Philosophical Theology and Philosophy of Religion, if I am studying subjects such as Theodicy and The Problem of Evil.

To only read and listen to Christian material would be to miss much of the philosophical information and critiques available on subjects.

As much as secular writers and presenters in regard to relationships tend to not understand the crucial theological connection between human nature and desire and fallen human nature and desire and what sinful nature produces (Genesis 3, Romans 1-3), and therefore make significant mistakes in analysis; Christian coaches can be guilty of over-spiritualizing and in supposing God will do what he may not do necessarily.

Presuming and assuming of God in the face of reality, being a major issue I have discussed online especially in regard to the problem of evil.

Christian teachers may also be guilty, perhaps in cultural naivety, or in an intentional spiritual approach for the sake of cultural pleasantries and social expectations within the Church, of overlooking and not mentioning certain information from science, psychology and secular culture which would be useful truth for the Christian.

One particular coach is an example of what I am discussing. He is a fine speaker with very good social skills. He has had significant success with younger women and been divorced more than once. He also has some significant education is psychology and some philosophy. I found his site a few years ago. I, at one point wrote him in regard to his system and a Christian worldview, but received no reply.

He has some very good insights on dating younger women, for example, he has pointed out that the typical younger woman interested in a significantly older man is more intelligent than average and somewhat rebellious. He also pointed out that this type of person may be artistic.

From my experience, online and offline I would state that this is basically accurate.

This being a person that would perhaps be frustrated by the typical young adult male that spends his weekend, using the coach's example, watching the National Football League.

Instead someone older with intellectual pursuits in common, with solid career objectives and accomplishments may be more suitable.

However, I cannot follow his system because it is in my Christian and Biblical view at points immoral and unethical.

He suggests that a man 35+ looking for a younger woman, described as 18-34 needs to start at the low of end of the beauty scale and the high end of the age scale. He prescribes 'dating and mating' with someone in her forties to start.

The assumption being that younger women will observe the man dating and mating and according to Darwinian Evolution will compete for the man that is now more attractive because he is dating and mating.

Several problems from a Christian perspective:

One, assuming Darwinian Evolution as opposed to a scientific model of microevolution (not macroevolution) that allows for creation where persons made in God's image (Genesis 1), that post-fall (Genesis 3, Romans 1-3) have a tarnished image and corrupted nature.

Two, 'mating' outside of marriage would be fornication and adultery if it is with with a married person (Exodus 20, Matthew 5).

Fornication and adultery are by nature anti-family practices. Fornication being sexual practice outside of marriage commitment and no family, or a family without certain moral and ethical considerations and legal connections.

Adultery could lead to the damage or destruction of one family and possibly the formation of another.

If one was serious about a family with the highest form of Biblical love in Christ, for example, without what I view as philosophical 'out' clauses, marriage would be the approach.

Three, if one dating does not intend the woman in her forties for at least potential marriage, and intentionally dates and mates the person for the means of 'socially upgrading', it is using a person.

This would be the case even if the woman in her forties knew exactly what the man was doing, even if they were using each other, somewhat based on my point just mentioned, but would be morally and ethically worse if she did not have knowledge of the approach from the man.

Four, the philosophy worked for the coach and some students in a secular, liberal context.

But it would be quite dubious in a Biblical Christian context within a Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox or Evangelical cultural setting because once a man of 35+ is dating a woman in her forties the cultural presumption is that this would potentially lead to marriage.

I seriously doubt that younger women for the most part within the Christian Church in some Darwinian Evolutionary model are going to attempt to steal this man away from an older woman. More likely they will assume he has decided to go along with cultural expectations and date someone closer to his age with the hope of potential marriage.

By the way, this is one ethical reason I totally refuse to date someone menopausal or close, in her forties or with older children!

The much larger reason however, being lack of significant overall attraction.

Five, this coach also assumes, too often, incorrectly within his system that significant attraction for women in their forties would exist with men 35+. He acknowledges that many men do lack this desire to date older women, however.

But his system would rely on this attraction and if it lacks with significant numbers of men this approach has questionable practical use, even apart from moral and ethical consideration.

Six, if the 'upgrade' approach suggested by this coach ever became public knowledge within the Church and local churches, the man practicing this would basically be dead in the water in regard to dating and a potential relationship.

And rightly so.

Example Two:  Philosophy of Religion

I have already alluded to this issue.

Within my PhD and MPhil theses writing and research, non-Christian philosophers such as J.L. Mackie and Anthony Flew were very helpful in me being able to better understand and document some of the difficulties with libertarian free and incompatibilism in regard to God, the origin and creation of humanity, theodicy and the problem of evil.

Even though I do not agree with their philosophical disbelief in Christianity and as well their explanations of compatibilism were not the same as my theistic compatibilism, their critiques along with ones from Christian compatibilists helped me to better understand serious theological and philosophical difficulties with views often held by the apparent majority of Christians in regard to free will.

This was backed up by my statistical research with the Evangelical, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Non-denominational churches.

D. Z. Phillips, another non-Christian philosopher was also significantly helpful in me further understanding some of the difficulties of theodicy approaches that were too optimistic, or lacked significant theological and philosophical support from theists.

With secular philosophers of religion there are even legitimate criticisms of some Christian theology and philosophy. Intellectual findings within Philosophy of Religion can complement those found within Biblical Studies and Biblical and Philosophical Theology in the pursuit of knowledge and truth. However, overall worldview which disbelieves Christian faith and philosophy is rejected.

FLEW, ANTONY (1955) ‘Divine Omnipotence and Human Freedom’, in Antony Flew and A. MacIntrye (eds.), New Essays in Philosophical Theology, London, SCM, in Paul Edwards and Arthur Pap (eds.), A Modern Introduction To Philosophy, New York, The Free Press.

FLEW, ANTONY (1955) ‘Theology and Falsification’, in Antony Flew and A. MacIntrye (eds.), New Essays in Philosophical Theology, London, SCM, in Paul Edwards and Arthur Pap (eds.), A Modern Introduction To Philosophy, New York, The Free Press.

FLEW, ANTONY (1983)(1996) ‘The Falsification Challenge’, in Antony Flew and A. MacIntrye (eds.), New Essays in Philosophical Theology, in Michael Peterson, William Hasker, Bruce Reichenbach, and David Basinger (eds.), Philosophy of Religion, Oxford, Oxford University Press.

FLEW, ANTONY, R.M. HARE, AND BASIL MITCHELL (1996) ‘The Debate on the Rationality of Religious Belief’, in L.P. Pojman (ed.), Philosophy, The Quest for Truth, New York, Wadsworth Publishing Company.

FLEW, ANTONY AND A.MACINTRYE (1999) ‘Philosophy of Religion’, in Alan Richardson and John Bowden (eds.), A New Dictionary of Christian Theology, Kent, SCM Press Ltd.

MACKIE, J.L. (1955)(1996) ‘Evil and Omnipotence’, in Mind, in Michael Peterson, William Hasker, Bruce Reichenbach, and David Basinger (eds.), Philosophy of Religion, Oxford, Oxford University Press.

MACKIE, J.L. (1971)(1977)(2002) ‘Evil and Omnipotence’, in The Philosophy of Religion, in Alvin C. Plantinga, God, Freedom, and Evil, Grand Rapids. Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Company.

PHILLIPS, D.Z. (1981) Encountering Evil, Stephen T. Davis (ed.), Atlanta, John Knox Press.

PHILLIPS, D.Z. (2005) The Problem of Evil and the Problem of God, Fortress Press, Minneapolis.

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This just emailed to me:

'The Procrastinator's Ten Commandants

I believe that if anything is worth doing, it would have been done already.

I shall never move quickly, except to avoid more work or find excuses.

I will never rush into a job without a lifetime of consideration.

I shall meet all of my deadlines directly in proportion to the amount of bodily injury I could expect to receive from missing them.

I firmly believe that tomorrow holds the possibility for new technologies, astounding discoveries, and a reprieve from my obligations.

I truly believe that all deadlines are unreasonable regardless of the amount of time given.

If at first I don't succeed, there is always next year.

I shall always decide not to decide, unless of course I decide to change my mind.

I shall always begin, start, initiate, take the first step, and/or write the first word, when I get around to it.

I will never put off tomorrow, what I can forget about forever.'

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Somewhat humourous but that is the type of thinking that does not lead to success...

What is next 'The Procrastinator's Bible?'

Would a liberal be someone that does something today that is on the mind?

Religious Websites & Computer Viruses

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Symantec April 2012

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'Based on Norton Safe Web32 data – Symantec technology that scans the Web looking for websites hosting malware – we’ve determined that 61% of malicious sites are actually regular Web sites that have been compromised and infected with malicious code.

By Category, The Top-5 Most Infected Websites Are:

1 Blogs & Web communications
2 Hosting/Personal hosted sites
3 Business/Economy
4 Shopping
5 Education & Reference

'It is interesting to note that Web sites hosting adult/pornographic content are not in the top five, but ranked tenth.'

'Moreover, religious and ideological sites were found to have triple the average number of threats per infected site than adult/pornographic sites. We hypothesize that this is because pornographic website owners already make money from the internet and, as a result, have a vested interest in keeping their sites malware-free – it’s not good for repeat business.'

Slate.com May 24 2012

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'When it comes to computer viruses, you’re now more likely to catch one visiting a church website than surfing for porn.'

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'As with herpes, one of the peripheral embarrassments of contracting a computer virus is that everyone has a pretty good idea of what you were up to when you got it. Oh sure, it’s possible you just chastely pecked a misleading email link. But odds are you picked it up because you were dallying on one of those shady, fly-by-night websites that people visit when they’re seeking fulfillment. You know—religious sites.'

'In its latest annual Internet security threat report, Symantec, the maker of Norton AntiVirus software, found that “religious and ideological sites” have far surpassed pornographic websites as targets for criminal hackers. According to the company you’re now three times as likely to encounter malware—insidious software that can steal your data, pelt you with spam, or enslave your machine in a botnet—on your local church blog as you are on a porn site.

The explanation is straightforward: The entrepreneurs who run adult websites are old hands at Web security, and they’ve long since learned to use protection. Those who build and host church websites, by contrast, may have the best intentions, but they tend to be naive and inexperienced. For hackers, that makes them easy prey.' 'Merighi says the online porn industry in the 1990s resembled the online religious community today—technologically speaking, of course. Enterprising photographers, filmmakers, bloggers, and businesspeople with limited Web savvy were starting their own sites in droves, often using the cheapest and simplest platforms available. Hackers soon capitalized, giving porn sites a well-deserved reputation as cesspools of malware, spam, intrusive pop-up ads, and sneaky redirects. But as traffic soared and companies began to cash in, competition became stiff, and the industry consolidated.'

'Religious sites aren’t a category unto themselves, but are split between blogs, self-hosted sites, and “education/reference” sites, which rank fifth on the “most-infected” list.'

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Computer viruses and malware are bad for the pornography business and therefore it is no surprise that these sites would often be secure.

One thing religious sites and pornographic sites have in common is potential for controversy and both could be targets for hackers based on philosophical considerations.

A person or group may have strong disagreements with site content and view hacking a site as a form of retaliation.

On my other blog I was noting in the most recent post's comment that I recently had the following issue on my laptop:

If 'Unable To Connect To Proxy Server' arrives on your computer screen and web access is denied although one has email with Windows, with the Google Chrome browser it provides directions on how to reset back to LAN status and not proxy. 

Settings-Show Advanced Settings-Change Proxy Settings-LAN Settings-Unclick Use A Proxy Server For Your LAN

I then did a search on the web to gain some information on where these computer viruses are most likely to be found and thus the inspiration for this post.

I have had my share of computer viruses and malware and have several security programs.

Windows 7 with my laptop has been less troublesome.

On more than once occasion with Windows XP and my former desktop I have downloaded specific fixes for specific viruses, usually Trojans of some type.

ZeroAccess rootkit was probably the most difficult to deal with as it places itself into Windows processes and eliminates or prohibits access to certain programs. I was blocked from the world wide web and had to use another computer to find fixes and as well the virtually 'satanic' program prohibited access to my anti-virus programs.

This required a Windows XP operating system reformat to clean and fix. Even with most of the files backed up and programs on disc, with my previous and last desktop it took approximately twenty four hours to reload all my files and programs after reformat.

I downloaded ZeroAccess rootkit off of You Tube! Twice. Connected to videos.

Trojan horses and rootkits and Ad Rotator viruses that played audio advertisements in the background and also redirected my browsers were the second most difficult form of virus and malware to deal with. The first time I downloaded these my programs eventually deleted them, the second time none of them worked and I temporarily used a paid for program that eventually deleted them after several weeks.

I ended the subscription after six months.

I reason these viruses and malware were picked up from blogs.

The persons that create these viruses and malware need to get a life. The creators of the more serious viruses obviously have talent and skill and it is being wasted in work that I doubt often benefits them financially.

Morally and ethically to create viruses and malware for web viewers is a form of attack on personal property.

There should be more legal ramifications for such hackers, if they can be caught.

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Sports & Situational Ethics

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Former Montreal Canadiens and Colorado Avalanche goaltender Patrick Roy is now the head coach of the Avalanche. This event above occurred in his first game Wednesday evening. In my view, and this is a deduction, his reaction may not have just been from the actual event but may actually be somewhat theatrical. The reason being the Avalanche have not been a contender the last few years and by the coach publicly standing up for his players, this supposedly and quite possibly creates a team environment which is considered more beneficial for winning.

Perhaps taking advantage of the situation?

I played ball hockey for many years and may play again one day, but one of the reasons I focus on martial arts, walking, light jogging and weights now is the ethical and moral issues in regard to theatre connected with ball hockey, and likely often connected with team sports.

There was also personal mental fatigue in being involved in such.

By mental fatigue I mean I would grow tired of the culture and environment and how it effected me.

I am intellectually in support of one doing the best one can do for the team, and for one to be the best player he/she can be, but I found even when playing ball hockey, even with Christians, there was often the danger of abandoning Christian ethics and morality.

The culture and emotions of the game seem to often rule and because it is seemingly often considered in a sense not 'real life' but just a game, many persons will act in ways playing ball hockey that he/she would not act in 'real life'.

However, from a Biblical perspective particular actions coming from thoughts and the paradigms allowed in the situation can demonstrate a failure to follow the great commandments from the gospels and failure to love fellow Christians as one should (John 15).

This often takes place in forms of theatre.

This could be an example of 'situational ethics' which was a concept I was introduced to at Columbia Bible College.

In other words from what I was taught at the College, applying different ethics in the theatre of sport, while playing ball hockey, that one would not usually ethically live by in real life, outside of the field of play.

Blackburn on situational ethics:

The view that ethical judgments apply to whole situations, rather in a similar way that aesthetic judgments are applied to works of art. Blackburn (1996: 352). A difficulty being with the view that ethics is not only a matter of responding to ethical situations but is a practical subject where 'future options have to be ranked in the light of different features'. Blackburn (1996: 352).

The Cambridge Dictionary on 'situation ethics':

It states it is an anti-theoretical case-by-case applied ethics that became popular in some European and American religious circles after World War II. Becker (1996: 738). Each moral choice must be determined by a particular context and situation. Becker (1996: 738). It rejects the idea that ethical principles are universal, and the same for moral principles, and these ethics and principles do not go beyond 'indeterminate commitments or ideals' Becker (1996: 738). It rejects attempts to develop general ethical and moral guidelines from a case. Becker (1996: 738).

I reason that consistent Biblical, Christian ethics and morality should be and needs to be applied in all life situations. Biblical commands do not supply and allow for theatrical exceptions and exemptions.

That is not to state that one could not be an actor as that would actually be presenting fiction. I am discussing actual real life situations such as sports, team sports, and ball hockey that are often not ethically and morally treated as real life, but rather as just a game.

BECKER, LAWRENCE C. (1996) Situation Ethics, in Robert Audi (ed.), The Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy, Cambridge, Cambridge University Press.

BLACKBURN, SIMON (1996) Oxford Dictionary of Philosophy, Oxford, Oxford University Press.

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Mail Online October 2012:Rugby league star has to have testicle removed

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'Rugby league star has to have testicle removed after refusing to come off with rupture injury during Grand Final Heroic Paul Wood, 31, played through the pain barrier for Warrington

He was joking about the incident on Twitter just hours later

But the father-of-two may now have to quit playing'

 'One of his tweets read: 'Ruptured my right testicle, got a knee 1 minute into the second half, had to have it removed.''

This morning I heard this story on Talk Sport from the United Kingdom.

This player is still playing. 

Philosophically...I would have quit. Why take further risks?

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From the BBC:

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'It concerns a 10-year-old-boy who was banned from turning up at his school's World War II costume day. Pupils were urged to "dress in the style of the era" as "an evacuee, soldier etc". William Gahasemi went one stage further. He turned up in an Adolf Hitler costume. His mum, Davina, who brushed his hair to the side, drew a toothbrush moustache below his nose and fashioned him a swastika armband, was told by teachers that the outfit was "extremely inappropriate". She defends the decision in an unimprovable quote: "I wasn't sure at first, but William said Hitler was kind of the lead character in the whole war and someone should play him."'

The Sun has the photo of the boy in costume which I am not going to post here.

I also heard this story on Talk Sport this morning. I agree with the radio commenters that the Mother should have used more common sense and had her child dress differently. Dressing as such creates unnecessary controversy, due to the horrific nature of World War II, much of it connected to Nazi Germany and Britain was at war with Nazi Germany, which in my mind means the social negatives of wearing such a costume in context outweigh the rights of personal freedom to dress as such.

Talk Sport:Wenger criticises Wilshere after Arsenal ace pictured smoking

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'The England midfielder was dropped for Tuesday night's win over Napoli, but was expected to be recalled for this weekend's trip to West Brom. But he is not in the good books of Highbury boss Arsene Wenger, who said: "You damage your reputation if you do it out socially. "I disagree completely with that behaviour. I don't know really what happened, so I will need to have a chat with him about that. "There are two things - first of all when you are a football player you are an example and as well you don't do what damages your health. "The fact is that you can damage your health at home, you can smoke at home and you can drink at home, and nobody sees it, but when you go out socially you also damage your reputation as an example."'

The Mail Online October 4

'Wilshere then took to Twitter appearing to defend his actions, posting a picture of former France and Real Madrid legend Zinedine Zidane smoking a cigarette before writing: 'But for the record... I don't smoke.'''

I had a laugh when the Talk Sport commenters were stating that perhaps he was holding the cigarette for a friend...