Tuesday, November 18, 2014

Manson Marriage?

Image by Jeff Jenkins: This post receives by far more pageviews than any other article on either one of my Blogger sites. Therefore, as it may be first on my 'All-Time Most Pageviews' list for years,  I might as well advertise and I certainly do not want Mr. Manson as the image.
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Yahoo November 18

No, not 'Manson' from 'The Non-Conformist of the Year', yearly saga on this blog...let us be realistic.

Cited

'CORCORAN, Calif. (AP) — Mass murderer Charles Manson plans to marry a 26-year-old woman who left her Midwestern home and spent the past nine years trying to help exonerate him. Afton Elaine Burton, the raven-haired bride-to-be, said she loves the man convicted in the notorious murders of seven people, including pregnant actress Sharon Tate. No date has been set, but a wedding coordinator has been assigned by the prison to handle the nuptials, and the couple has until early February to get married before they would have to reapply.'

Cited

'The Kings County marriage license, viewed Monday by The Associated Press, was issued Nov. 7 for the 80-year-old Manson and Burton, who lives in Corcoran — the site of the prison — and maintains several websites advocating his innocence.'

End citations

An eighty-year old man and twenty-six year old woman?

Is this the primary philosophical, ethical problem here?

My co-worker and senior colleague stated that obviously they would have nothing in common because of the massive age difference.

However, that is not for me to judge with any significant accuracy.

In general I tend to think that 'birds of a feather flock together'.

Philosophically and theologically, marriage Biblically via Genesis 1-3 is tied to the production of family.

Under normal circumstances, to be fair in this fallen realm.

My issue with a fifty-four year year age difference, even if the two persons do actually relate romantically, is that because of a typical eighty-year old man's limited life expectancy, it is not a good reasonable choice for the twenty-six year old woman to enter into such a relationship, based on a Biblical model.

Significant limited marriage length and family possibilities.

That is based philosophically on the idea that the man would be a typical biological eighty-year old.

In other words, an old man and a young woman is not a reasonable and good romantic relationship.

In this case, Charles Manson appears biologically a typical old man.

A marriage between a twenty-six year old woman and one such as or similar to well-known celebrity Chuck Norris that is seventy-four years old that could potentially live another thirty years, because he is extremely youthful and fit could be reasonable.

That would be a union of two youthful persons, even with a large biological age difference.

There would still be significant marriage length and family possibilities.

This is an example of philosophical subtlety.

However, the age difference is obviously, if one uses reason not the primary concern in this Manson case.

I mention it because I reason many observers will overly dwell on the age difference.

Far more importantly, no rational young woman, no sane young woman, should desire to be with a mass murderer in a romantic capacity.

Including in marriage, obviously.

CNN November 18

Cited

'Manson intends to marry Afton Burton, who goes by Star. Several years ago, she moved from Illinois to Corcoran, a small central California city that's home to Corcoran State Prison, where the 80-year-old convicted murderer has lived for the past 25 years.

She talks to Manson almost every day by phone and visits him on most weekends. No date has been set for the wedding, the source said. The couple has 90 days to exercise the license, without having to reapply. According to Jeffrey Callison, a spokesman with the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, the wedding must happen on a visiting day.'

Cited

'The prison limits physical contact. During visits, Star and Manson can only hug each other at the beginning and end. Because Manson is serving a life sentence, they won't be allowed conjugal visits, even when they're married.'

Yahoo November 18

Cited

'Afton Elaine Burton, the raven-haired bride-to-be, said she loves the man convicted in the notorious murders of seven people, including pregnant actress Sharon Tate.' Cited 'Burton gave an interview a year ago to Rolling Stone magazine in which she said she and Manson planned to marry.

But Manson, who became notorious in 1969 as the leader of a roving "family" of young killers, was less certain about tying the knot.

"That's a bunch of garbage," Manson said in the December 2013 interview. "That's trash. We're playing that for public consumption."

Asked Monday about those comments, Burton said, "None of that's true," adding that they're waiting for the prison to complete their paperwork.'

End citations

I reason that there is likely something significant to my senior co-worker's suggestion that there are financial considerations at work here with this story.

I will not speculate how that works in regard to someone in prison for life in the State of California as I am not expert, but Charles Manson is one of the most famous mass murderers in modern Western history and there would be financial considerations I reason.

My co-worker comparing this situation to eighty-eight year old Hugh Hefner of Playboy and his young girlfriends...

Worth consideration.

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