Sunday, June 01, 2025

Abusive Analogy: Satire Und Theology Version

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Abusive Analogy

Preface

A section of the entry by entry review of the Pirie text. Originally published on Blogger 20151029, revised on Blogger 20250601 for a version on academia.edu.

PIRIE, MADSEN (2006)(2015) How To Win Every Argument, Bloomsbury, London.

Abusive Analogy

From Pirie

'The fallacy of abusive analogy is a highly specialized version of the ad hominem argument. Instead of the arguer being insulted directly, an analogy is drawn which is calculated to bring him into scorn or disrepute. The opponent or his behaviour is compared with something which will elicit an unfavourable response toward him from the audience.' (29).

Pirie provides the example:

'If science admits no certainties, then a scientist has no more certain knowledge of the universe than does a Hottentot running through the bush.' (29).

'(This is true, but is intended as abuse so that the hearer will be more sympathetic to the possibility of certain knowledge.) (29).'

This statement is not necessarily true, it is using hyperbole. Theoretically, a scientist could speculate on the existence of outer space, without being certain, while the Khoekhoe (more accurate term) may or may not, have an understanding of the concept of outer space, but also without certainty.

In other words, with Pirie's explanation, science using inductive reasoning, testing and empirical research may not claim certainty, at least in some cases, but there is still considerable, significant knowledge that has been obtained through the scientific method. A lack of certainty with inductive scientific reasoning, does not for example, by default make certain deductive philosophical and theological reasoning certain.

An analogy is not effective here as inductive and deductive reasoning succeeds or fails based on the trueness of premises and conclusions presented.

Blackburn explains that arguing by analogy is stating that since things are alike in some ways they will 'probably' (14) be alike in others. (14). The use of 'probably' here is key. Often arguing by analogy produces some similarities and some differences rendering the argument unsound.

If such an argument is used comparing only the things certainly alike it is reasonable.

However, Blackburn cites Wittgenstein, noting it can be irresponsible to generalize one case. (14).

In other words, generalizing by argument of analogy can be irresponsible. 

Wittgenstein 

Wittgenstein’s Generalisations About Generalisations: Medium-Dec 12, 2019

Paul Austin Murphy 

Cites

WITTGENSTEIN, LUDWIG (1912-1978) Ludwig Wittgenstein's Blue Book, University of Pittsburgh (depositor), University of Pittsburgh.
https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A31735061817932


“Our craving for generality has [as one] source … our preoccupation with the method of science. I mean the method of reducing the explanation of natural phenomena to the smallest possible number of primitive natural laws; and, in mathematics, of unifying the treatment of different topics by using a generalization. Philosophers constantly see the method of science before their eyes, and are irresistibly tempted to ask and answer in the way science does. This tendency is the real source of metaphysics, and leads the philosopher into complete darkness. I want to say here that it can never be our job to reduce anything to anything, or to explain anything. Philosophy really is ‘purely descriptive’.” 

'I want to say here that it can never be our job to reduce anything to anything, or to explain anything. Philosophy really is ‘purely descriptive’.”'

A philosophical problem here, potentially at least, as this is just a small section of Wittgenstein's work and explanation, is of consistency. Wittgenstein is explaining something. He is not simply providing a description, but is offering an opinion. 

However, generalization within abusive analogy is fallacious because an ad hominem, personal attack, analogy, is concerned with attacking a person making the statement or premise (s) with a conclusion. When in contrast, what is important for accuracy is the trueness of a statement, or premise (s) and conclusion presented. Using an analogy with a generalization stating 'If science admits no certainties, then a scientist has no more certain knowledge of the universe than does a Hottentot running through the bush.' (29); this is generalizing the knowledge of the scientist within analogy. A lack of certainty does not equate to lack of knowledge, in the case of the scientist. The scientist may hold to many ideas as probably right, that may or may not, one day may be shown to be certainly right.

By

Anat Biletzki 
Anat Matar

Cited 

'It is here that Wittgenstein’s rejection of general explanations, and definitions based on sufficient and necessary conditions, is best pronounced. Instead of these symptoms of the philosopher’s “craving for generality,” he points to ‘family resemblance’ as the more suitable analogy for the means of connecting particular uses of the same word. There is no reason to look, as we have done traditionally—and dogmatically—for one, essential core in which the meaning of a word is located and which is, therefore, common to all uses of that word. We should, instead, travel with the word’s uses through “a complicated network of similarities overlapping and criss-crossing” (PI 66). Family resemblance also serves to exhibit the lack of boundaries and the distance from exactness that characterize different uses of the same concept. Such boundaries and exactness are the definitive traits of form—be it Platonic form, Aristotelian form, or the general form of a proposition adumbrated in the Tractatus. It is from such forms that applications of concepts can be deduced, but this is precisely what Wittgenstein now eschews in favor of appeal to similarity of a kind with family resemblance.'  

Generalities lead to error when they produce reasoning that fails to embrace true statements and or true premise (s) and conclusion. Better to specifically review and produce statements and or premise (s) and conclusion for accuracy in truth.

In regards to Wittgenstein rejecting definitions based on sufficient and necessary conditions: 


Cited 

'A causal fallacy you commit this fallacy when you assume that a necessary condition of an event is sufficient for the event to occur. A necessary condition is a condition that must be present for an event to occur. A sufficient condition is a condition or set of conditions that will produce the event. A necessary condition must be there, but it alone does not provide sufficient cause for the occurrence of the event. Only the sufficient grounds can do this. In other words, all of the necessary elements must be there.' 

'Department of Philosophy

Dr. Craig Hanks, Chair'

I reason

Sufficient conditions mean all of the necessary conditions exist for an event


My add below (PI):

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Primary sources noted on Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy Archive 

Ludwig Wittgenstein

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Bibliography

BLACKBURN, SIMON (1996) Oxford Dictionary of Philosophy, Oxford, Oxford University Press.

LANGER, SUSANNE K (1953)(1967) An Introduction to Symbolic Logic, Dover Publications, New York. (Philosophy).

PIRIE, MADSEN (2006)(2015) How To Win Every Argument, Bloomsbury, London.

WITTGENSTEIN, LUDWIG (1912-1978) Ludwig Wittgenstein's Blue Book, University of Pittsburgh (depositor), University of Pittsburgh.
https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A31735061817932

WITTGENSTEIN, LUDWIG (1951)(1979) On Certainty, Basil Blackwell, Oxford.

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Saturday, May 31, 2025

UEFA: Champions League Winners

2025 Paris Saint-Germain 5 Inter Milan 0
2024 Real Madrid 2 Borussia Dortmund 0
2023 Manchester City 1 Inter Milan 0
2022 Real Madrid 1 Liverpool 0
2021 Chelsea 1 Manchester City 0
2020 Bayern Munich 1 Paris Saint-Germain 0
2019 Liverpool 2 Tottenham Hotspur 0
2018 Real Madrid 3 Liverpool 1
2017 Real Madrid 4 Juventus 1
2016 Real Madrid 1 Atlético Madrid 1 (5-3 pks)
2015 FC Barcelona 3 Juventus 1
2014 Real Madrid 4 Atlético Madrid 1 (et)
2013 Bayern Munich 2 Borussia Dortmund 1
2012 Chelsea 1 Bayern Munich 1 (4-3 pks)
2011 FC Barcelona 3 Manchester United 1
2010 Internazionale 2 Bayern Munich 0
2009 FC Barcelona 2 Manchester United 0
2008 Manchester United 1 Chelsea 1 (6-5 pks)
2007 AC Milan 2 Liverpool 1
2006 FC Barcelona 2 Arsenal 1
2005 Liverpool 3 vs AC Milan 3 (3-2 pks)
2004 FC Porto 3 vs AS Monaco FC 0
2003 AC Milan 0 vs Juventus 0 (3-2 pks)
2002 Real Madrid 2 vs Bayer Leverkusen 1
2001 Bayern Munich 1 vs Valencia 1 (5-4 pks)
2000 Real Madrid 3 vs Valencia 0
1999 Manchester United 2 vs Bayern Munich 1
1998 Real Madrid 1 vs Juventus 0
1997 Borussia Dortmund 3 vs Juventus 1
1996 Juventus 1 vs Ajax 1 (4-2 pks)
1995 Ajax 1 vs AC Milan 0
1994 AC Milan 4 vs Barcelona 0
1993 Olympique Marseille 1 vs AC Milan 0
1992 FC Barcelona 1 vs Sampdoria 0
1991 Red Star Belgrade 0 vs Marseille 0 (5-3 pks)
1990 AC Milan 1 vs Benfica 0
1989 AC Milan 4 vs Steaua Bucharest 0
1988 PSV Eindhoven 0 vs Benfica 0 (6-5 pks)
1987 FC Porto 2 vs Bayern Munich 1
1986 Steaua Bucharest 0 vs Barcelona 0 (2-0 pks)
1985 Juventus 1 vs Liverpool 0
1984 Liverpool 1 vs AS Roma 1 (4-2 pks)
1983 SV Hamburg 1 vs Juventus 0
1982 Aston Villa 1 vs Bayern Munich 0
1981 Liverpool 1 vs Real Madrid 0
1980 Nottingham Forest 1 vs SV Hamburg 0
1979 Nottingham Forest 1 vs Malmo 0
1978 Liverpool 1 vs Club Brugge 0
1977 Liverpool 3 vs Moenchengladbach 1
1976 Bayern Munich 1 vs Saint Etienne 0
1975 Bayern Munich 2 vs Leeds United 0
1974 Bayern Munich 4 vs Atlético Madrid 0 (replay after 1-1)
1973 Ajax 1 vs Juventus 0
1972 Ajax 1 vs Inter Milan 0
1971 Ajax 1 vs Panathinaikos 0
1970 Feyenoord 2 vs Celtic 1
1969 AC Milan 4 vs Ajax 1
1968 Manchester United 4 vs Benfica 1
1967 Celtic 2 vs Internazionale 1
1966 Real Madrid 2 vs Partizan Belgrade 1
1965 Internazionale 1 vs Benfica 0
1964 Internazionale 3 vs Real Madrid 1
1963 AC Milan 2 vs Benfica 1
1962 Benfica 5 vs Real Madrid 3
1961 Benfica 3 vs Barcelona 2
1960 Real Madrid 7 vs Eintracht Frankfurt 3
1959 Real Madrid 2 vs Reims 0
1958 Real Madrid 3 vs AC Milan 2
1957 Real Madrid 2 vs Fiorentina 0
1956 Real Madrid 4 vs Reims 3

Originally published January 24, 2007

Football Championships

FIFA World Cup Champions

2022 Argentina 3 France 3 (4-2 pks)
2018 France 4 Croatia 2
2014 Germany 1-0 Argentina (et)
2010 Spain 1-0 Netherlands (et)
2006 Italy 1-1 France (5-3 pks)
2002 Brazil 2-0 Germany
1998 France 3-0 Brazil
1994 Brazil 0-0 Italy (3-2 pks)
1990 West Germany 1-0 Argentina
1986 Argentina 3-2 West Germany
1982 Italy 3-1 West Germany
1978 Argentina 3-1 Netherlands (et)
1974 West Germany 2-1 Netherlands
1970 Brazil 4-1 Italy
1966 England 4-2 West Germany (et)
1962 Brazil 3-1 Czechoslovakia
1958 Brazil 5-2 Sweden
1954 West Germany 3-2 Hungary
1950 Uruguay 2-1 Brazil
1938 Italy 4-2 Hungary
1934 Italy 2-1 Czechoslovakia (et)
1930 Uruguay 4-2 Argentina


UEFA European Champions

2024 Spain 2-1 England 
2020 Italy 1-1 England (3-2 pks)
2016 Portugal 1-0 France (et)
2012 Spain 4-0 Italy
2008 Spain 1-0 Germany
2004 Greece 1-0 Portugal
2000 France 2-1 Italy (et)
1996 Germany 2-1 Czech Republic
1992 Denmark 2-0 Germany
1988 Netherlands 2-0 USSR
1984 France 2-0 Spain
1980 West Germany 2-1 Belgium
1976 Czechoslovakia 2-2 West Germany (6-5 pks)
1972 West Germany 3-0 USSR
1968 Italy 2-0 Yugoslavia (replay after 1-1)
1964 Spain 2-1 USSR
1960 USSR 2-1 Yugoslavia

UEFA Champions League Winners

2025 Paris Saint-Germain 5 Inter Milan 0
2024 Real Madrid 2 Borussia Dortmund
2023 Manchester City 1 Inter Milan 0
2022 Real Madrid 1 Liverpool 0
2021 Chelsea 1 Manchester City 0
2020 Bayern Munich 1 Paris Saint-Germain 0
2019 Liverpool 2 Tottenham Hotspur 0
2018 Real Madrid 3 Liverpool 1
2017 Real Madrid 4 Juventus 1
2016 Real Madrid 1 Atlético Madrid 1 (5-3 pks)
2015 FC Barcelona 3 Juventus 1
2014 Real Madrid 4 Atlético Madrid 1 (et)
2013 Bayern Munich 2 Borussia Dortmund 1
2012 Chelsea 1 Bayern Munich 1 (4-3 pks)
2011 FC Barcelona 3 Manchester United 1
2010 Internazionale 2 Bayern Munich 0
2009 FC Barcelona 2 Manchester United 0
2008 Manchester United 1 Chelsea 1 (6-5 pks)
2007 AC Milan 2 Liverpool 1
2006 FC Barcelona 2 Arsenal 1
2005 Liverpool 3 AC Milan 3 (3-2 pks)
2004 FC Porto 3 AS Monaco FC 0
2003 AC Milan 0 Juventus 0 (3-2 pks)
2002 Real Madrid 2 Bayer Leverkusen 1
2001 Bayern Munich 1 Valencia 1 (5-4 pks)
2000 Real Madrid 3 Valencia 0
1999 Manchester United 2 Bayern Munich 1
1998 Real Madrid 1 Juventus 0
1997 Borussia Dortmund 3 Juventus 1
1996 Juventus 1 Ajax 1 (4-2 pks)
1995 Ajax 1 AC Milan 0
1994 AC Milan 4 Barcelona 0
1993 Olympique Marseille 1 AC Milan 0
1992 FC Barcelona 1 Sampdoria 0
1991 Red Star Belgrade 0 Marseille 0 (5-3 pks)
1990 AC Milan 1 Benfica 0
1989 AC Milan 4 Steaua Bucharest 0
1988 PSV Eindhoven 0 Benfica 0 (6-5 pks)
1987 FC Porto 2 Bayern Munich 1
1986 Steaua Bucharest 0 Barcelona 0 (2-0 pks)
1985 Juventus 1 Liverpool 0
1984 Liverpool 1 AS Roma 1 (4-2 pks)
1983 SV Hamburg 1 Juventus 0
1982 Aston Villa 1 Bayern Munich 0
1981 Liverpool 1 Real Madrid 0
1980 Nottingham Forest 1 SV Hamburg 0
1979 Nottingham Forest 1 Malmo 0
1978 Liverpool 1 Club Brugge 0
1977 Liverpool 3 Moenchengladbach 1
1976 Bayern Munich 1 Saint Etienne 0
1975 Bayern Munich 2 Leeds United 0
1974 Bayern Munich 4 Atlético Madrid 0 (replay after 1-1)
1973 Ajax 1 Juventus 0
1972 Ajax 1 Internazionale 0
1971 Ajax 1 Panathinaikos 0
1970 Feyenoord 2 Celtic 1
1969 AC Milan 4 Ajax 1
1968 Manchester United 4 Benfica 1
1967 Celtic 2 Inter Milan 1
1966 Real Madrid 2 Partizan Belgrade 1
1965 Internazionale 1 Benfica 0
1964 Internazionale 3 Real Madrid 1
1963 AC Milan 2 Benfica 1
1962 Benfica 5 Real Madrid 3
1961 Benfica 3 Barcelona 2
1960 Real Madrid 7 Eintracht Frankfurt 3
1959 Real Madrid 2 Reims 0
1958 Real Madrid 3 AC Milan 2
1957 Real Madrid 2 Fiorentina 0
1956 Real Madrid 4 Reims 3

Originally published September 4, 2006

Saturday, May 24, 2025

Status does not make an argument true: Satire Und Theology Version

Status does not make an argument true

PIRIE, MADSEN (2006)(2015) How To Win Every Argument, Bloomsbury, London.

Preface   

This short Blogger article is from my entry by entry review of the Pirie text, 20170602. Revised on Blogger for a version of academia.edu, 20250524.

My photo 20250420, Milano. 

Lazarum, arguementum ad

The poor person may be blessed, but is not always right. (140). A reference to the poor man, Lazarus, in the New Testament.

Luke 16:19-31

English Standard Version (ESV)

19 “There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. 20 And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, 21 who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side.[a] The rich man also died and was buried, 23 and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. 24 And he called out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.’ 25 But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner bad things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.’ 27 And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father's house— 28 for I have five brothers—so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.’ 29 But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ 30 And he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ 31 He said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’”

Footnotes: Luke 16:22 Greek bosom; also verse 23

Note: Theologically, Martin Luther's view here on Luke 16: 19-31:


'Martin Luther taught that the story was a parable about rich and poor in this life and the details of the afterlife not to be taken literally: Therefore we conclude that the bosom of Abraham signifies nothing else than the Word of God, ... the hell here mentioned cannot be the true hell that will begin on the day of judgment. For the corpse of the rich man is without doubt not in hell, but buried in the earth; it must however be a place where the soul can be and has no peace, and it cannot be corporeal. Therefore it seems to me, this hell is the conscience, which is without faith and without the Word of God, in which the soul is buried and held until the day of judgment, when they are cast down body and soul into the true and real hell. (Church Postil 1522–23)[17]' 

(17) 'volume IV: pp. 17–32 Archived 2010-10-11 at the Wayback Machine, The Sermons of Martin Luther Baker Book House Grand Rapids, MI' 

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Non-Wikipedia version


'Therefore we conclude that the bosom of Abraham signifies nothing else than the Word of God,…. the hell here mentioned cannot be the true hell that will begin on the day of judgment. For the corpse of the rich man is without doubt not in hell, but buried in the earth; it must however be a place where the soul can be and has no peace, and it cannot be corporeal. Therefore it seems to me, this hell is the conscience, which is without faith and without the Word of God, in which the soul is buried and held until the day of judgment, when they are cast down body and soul into the true and real hell. (Church Postil 1522-23)' 

Website: About 

'Whole Reason is the theological teaching site for Associate Pastor Daniel G. Sinclair, living and working in the Nashville, Tennessee area. I recently completed a Masters in Theology at Williamson College.' 
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I agree with Martin Luther that this a non-plain literal, parable. I do reason that the unregenerate (as opposed to the regenerate through the Holy Spirit, John 3, Titus 3, 1 Peter 1) soul/spirit, post-mortem goes to Hades (Hell1), but that this is a non-corporeal spiritual existence. A spiritual existence of non-peace outside of common grace which existed in the temporal realm. The conscience, mind, soul/spirit in Luke 16 is facing pure justice as this person, post-mortem, is not covered by the atoning and resurrection work of Jesus Christ for sin (s) provided to believers by grace through faith. The 'true hell' (Hell2) according to Martin Luther is that of the lake of fire (Revelation 20) where both resurrected body and soul are cast in the lake of fire. I reason that the lake of fire too is non-plain literal, and death and Hades are cast in Revelation 20: 14, which describes the second death. But, I agree with Luther that this is culminated hell, with a physical/spiritual aspect. The dead outside of Christ are cast into Hell2.
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Pirie opines that poverty does not enhance an argument. (140). In other words, if someone is poor, it does not enhance his/her argument and make it true. Perhaps for some, human sympathy in regard to a poor person, influences a lack of objectivity in evaluating premises and conclusions.

'Poverty does not contribute to the soundness of an argument.' (141). Of course being in the middle-class or wealthy, does not contribute to the soundness of an argument.

The author's point is technically correct, but then again the status of any person does not make his/her argument true; the correctness of premises and conclusions make an argument true.

If I opine on theology, bible or philosophy of religion, the argument is not necessarily true because I have a related PhD, but if my premises and conclusions are true, my argument is sound. As Pirie notes this fallacy is due to giving attention to the source of argumentation, instead of to the contentions made. (141).

Status does not make an argument true

An argument can be embraced from a type of celebrity or authority, without reasonable, in-depth evaluation of premises and conclusions made. 

An argument can have logical premises, but not all premises are reasonable and the argument is false.

Premise 1: Canada has existed since 1867
Premise 2: Dr. Russ is a Canadian
Premise 3: Dr. Russ is a noted 19th Century scholar (Dr. Russ did not exist until the 20th Century)

Conclusion: He earned his Canadian PhD in 1890 (He earned his PhD in the 21st Century, in Wales, not Canada. It may have been reasonable for me to have earned a Canadian PhD, but not reasonable in the 19th Century) 

Premise 1: Logical, reasonable, true
Premise 2: Logical, reasonable, true
Premise 3: Logical, not reasonable, not true 

Conclusion: Logical, but not reasonable or true.
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An argument can have premises that are logical and reasonable, but not true as an argument.

Premise 1: Dr. Russ is a Canadian
Premise 2: He lived in the 20th-21st Centuries
Premise 3: Dr. Russ is not a radical conservative

Conclusion: He votes federally for the Liberal Party

Premise 1: Logical, reasonable, true
Premise 2: Logical, reasonable, true
Premise 3: Logical, reasonable, true

Conclusion: Logical and reasonable, but not true. I have never voted for the federal Liberal Party.

Valid arguments cannot have a true premise (s) and false conclusion.

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PORTER, LAURENCE.E. (1986) ‘Luke’, in F.F. Bruce (gen.ed.), The International Bible Commentary, Grand Rapids, Marshall Pickering/ Zondervan. 

MOLTMANN, JÜRGEN (1993) The Crucified God, Minneapolis, Fortress Press. 

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