Brand new. Thanks, Jeff!
Thoughts and Theology
The previous audio posts I presented from filefreak.com no longer have the audio as my account was deleted without my permission. I have set up a new account with filefreak. My audio posts I presented with Shaw prior to filefreak still have the audio but I maxed my space allowed with the Shaw account and therefore looked for another host. I have all my audio presentations and some outtakes saved on disc, but I suppose at this point I will not bother replacing the missing audio on those archived audio posts.
My previous Christmas posts:
Michelin Man returns (2008)
Michelin Man (2008)
Christmas thoughts and satire (2008)
Blue Santa (2007)
Christmas satire (2007)
Jeff Jenkins of Thoughts and Theology and his fine work from Christmas 2008:
Good one from The Jeff.
The photo below was sent to me today. One of the most amazing I have ever seen, in my opinion.
Telegraph
Photo of the day: 3 June 2008
'A car collides into cyclists participating in a race in Mexico's northern border city of Matamoros. At least one person was killed and 14 injured'
A fascinating photo and horrible crash. The death resulting was tragic and what was the driver of the car thinking?
Terrible
A reply to a critic
Through a Facebook friend it has been brought to my attention that a Facebook friend of this person thought my audio presentation lacked energy and content. This second critic has worked with television and radio. Basically the critique was similar to that of my own friend mentioned in the audio presentation.
1. My presentation is careful as a presentation should be with theology, philosophy or religion and Biblical Studies. I should not rush through it for the sake of energy and enthusiasm. I am also trying to avoid misspeaking. Technical accuracy here is more important than motivational content. This is I realize, is not necessarily the case in all kinds of speaking.
2. No matter what is reasonably done, some/many will never enjoy or appreciate theological presentations. This was the case with my undergrad teaching internship. I have had two internships.
3. Most theology (and related) professors are dry in comparison to what I have been presenting. Believe me my work would pretty much be progressive with the humour and such. Remember I sat through related teaching for seven years of course work. Often a yawwwn. Yes, even for me. This is a reason I make things short by the way!
4. The critic is probably not in a position to judge my theological content by merely having worked in media.
Therefore the critique is largely misplaced, although I agree that much of the problem is with the typical listener.
I have admitted that I am trying to improve in presentation. I do not have a media related degree.
I am not God's gift to theology, women, or radio.;)
Happy Holidays
The original audio posted was also pulled by filefreak as many probably already realize. So here is a replacement via webcam audio...
Russ,
ReplyDeleteHmmm? Where did you friend get the idea you being around older folk too much would cause you to speak in a monotone? We old guys may not be able to move the legs as much anymore, but we can exercise our voices pretty good. :)
Larry
Nitewrit - you have 'hit the nail on the head!'
ReplyDeleteWe older folk can and will exercise our voices - and we do it very well! Pay attention to the wise words of those who have been through it a few (or more) times, and have learned by experience. Yes, experience is a great teacher!
Hmmm, I think too many Western Christians associate theology with old men. Younger Christians should know something about theology. Thanks, Larry!
ReplyDeleteI do agree that in life and in theology wisdom is very important. Wisdom can be associated with older persons in Christ that have prayed, been in fellowship with other Christians and studied well by the guidance of the Holy Spirit. On the other hand, older persons that have went down the wrong track can bring spiritual poison to youth.
ReplyDeleteAs well, too many parents today are bringing children up with the idea that the kids cannot possibly be spiritually mature. Now I reason that Christians on the right track should grow in maturity over the years, but this does not mean that young people necessarily need to live ungodly lives and make major errors, such as of the sexual nature, for example. The allowance of the 'sow your wild oats' philosophy is spiritual poison, although many children do go down that road.
I also fully acknowledge that sin is a universal problem for humanity (Romans 1-6). Myself included.
From:
Wild oats idiom
'sow your wild oats
if a young man sows his wild oats, he has a period of his life when he does a lot of exciting things and has a lot of sexual relationships
He'd spent his twenties sowing his wild oats but felt that it was time to settle down.'
Proverbs 1: 2-7 KJV
2 To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding;
3 To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity;
4 To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.
5 A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:
6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.
7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Thanks very much, Anon.:)
Russ,
ReplyDeleteNice painting of the Christmas tree!
And that car crash photo is something else! Wow!
Thank you for showing, once again, that collage I put together in Photoshop last year!
Your audio presentations are improving. The humor and variations in your voice help. LOL at the James Bond crack! I also laughed when you talked about people being pains at the end. Thank you for mentioning me in your audio, as well! I'll send you the check soon that I promised for including my name in your post, as we agreed on.
Thanks, Jeff.
ReplyDeleteI did that in one take and previously it took me a few to present a message. Making notes really helps. Now, if filefreak deletes this new account I can either go back to them again, delete my old Shaw material and use Shaw, or look elsewhere. The free file sharing business is 'iffy.'
Blogger should post/host audio files! This is 2009, come on.
I received a very nice comment on Facebook email concerning my audio presentation as well.
'Nice painting of the Christmas tree!'
A good find.
'And that car crash photo is something else! Wow!'
Sad but interesting.
'Thank you for showing, once again, that collage I put together in Photoshop last year!'
Jeff, if you make more I shall post! Hint.;) I know you are busy...
'Your audio presentations are improving. The humor and variations in your voice help.'
Yes, and that was the best point that my friend made in his criticisms in that tonal change does help. But, theological and philosophical teaching should not be highly emotionally charged, for the most part. I will stand by that.
'LOL at the James Bond crack!'
;)
'I also laughed when you talked about people being pains at the end. Thank you for mentioning me in your audio, as well! I'll send you the check soon that I promised for including my name in your post, as we agreed on.'
$$$$$$$
LOL! Mr. James Bond of Theology ;).
ReplyDeleteEnjoyed that Russ the inflection and humor is a great addition. Just be yourself and teach with Joy and you will do great!
The pic. of the car accident is horrendous! and only one was killed, that is pretty amazing! also the collage that jeff did was really good :)
Bond...James...Capone.:)
ReplyDeleteIf Bond is 007, I could be 00068.
So, Jeff has yet another fan...
Cheers, Tamela.
I agree with Jeff, your best audio post yet. Hopefully it did not take you as long producing it either.
ReplyDeleteThe image from Jeff ("Kick From Chuck") reminds me of a list of Chuck Norris geek jokes that was circulating in my office last week...
My favourites:
Chuck Norris’s keyboard doesn’t have a Ctrl key because nothing controls Chuck Norris.
(It's the stupidest ones that make me laugh)
Thanks, Saints Chucklins.
ReplyDeleteYes, this audio post was easier to produce. I do wish the audio hosting was more certain. Again, this should be done by Blogger in my humble opinion.
Merry Christmas Mr. Blogger that is
ReplyDeleteJames Bond Blogger! Your post was personal, interesting, and humorous and non monotone!
Its nice to have an audio update of your academic career.
-Lester Listens-
Cheers, to you LL.
ReplyDeleteJeff, if you make more I shall post! Hint.;) I know you are busy...
ReplyDeleteYeah, right now I'm supposed to be working on another project, though it's not a rush...still, it is going to take some time to do. But if I get a chance, I may do another one for you.
also the collage that jeff did was really good :)
Thanks, Tamela!
Chucky, 'good on ya' for providing that Chuck Norris jokes link.
Well, Jeff, my last thekingpin68 post of 2009 should be martial arts photos and you shall have another opportunity to demonstrate your graphics greatness.
ReplyDeleteIf you so choose!
Well, Jeff, my last thekingpin68 post of 2009 should be martial arts photos and you shall have another opportunity to demonstrate your graphics greatness.
ReplyDeleteIf you so choose!
OK, I'll see. That one I did last year didn't take long.
Like Bob Ross would say...
ReplyDelete'No pressure.'
Cheers.
Islamic Supremacism in France: New Religious Demands in the Workplace and Hospitals
ReplyDelete'The relentless demands of Islam on the West continue unabated. Islamic expansionism never sleeps. It's a war on the West.'
ReplyDeleteSome non-exhaustive points:
1. With the dangers of radical Islam coming from an Islamic majority and possible radical Islamic influenced governments, Western governments should have never risked letting a possible Muslim majority occur via immigration. This should be battled now, as much as possible in regard to immigration.
2. Western governments should not allow shari'a law/Muslim religious law in any Western jurisdiction. All persons should follow the secular law (no not Christian, I am not for a theocracy) of the land.
3. The birth rate should be encouraged to grow in Western nations. For example, abortion on demand, for birth control, even apart from religious considerations, needs to end. There also more importantly (in this context!), needs to be a higher birth rate in Western families. Muslims according to certain statisticians are soon going to be the majority in several European nations. See below.
I admit that I and many Christians by failing to get married have also failed to have children. But, I am trying to find someone...I am asking the Lord for help.
4. I realize that most Muslims are not radical and are fine neigbours etc. I have met Muslims I like, and this is not personal at all! The concern Jeff is raising and I can understand is one of a majority leading to possible radical Islamic governments.
Portions quoted from:
Brussels
Khouse
'Islam is quickly becoming a significant part of the cultural and political landscape of Europe. There are between 9 and 15 million Muslims living throughout Europe today, and Islam has become the largest religious minority. Considering current population trends and the need for immigrant labor it is likely that the number of Muslims in Europe will continue to grow exponentially. Bernard Lewis, a former history professor at Princeton and the respected author of more than a dozen books on the Middle East, is quoted as saying that "Europe will be Islamic by the end of the century."
Europe's Muslim population is not evenly distributed. It is concentrated primarily in six countries. France has a Muslim population of approximately 5 million, the largest in all of Europe. Germany has about 2 million, followed by the United Kingdom with 1.5 million, the Netherlands with 500,000, Belgium with 300,000, and Austria with 200,000. The heavy concentration of Muslims in these countries is not surprising, because during the last three decades they have experienced massive labor migrations. Large Muslim populations also exist in Italy and Spain, as well as several Scandinavian countries such as Sweden, Denmark, and Norway...
The EU may not become the Islamic Republic of Europe any time soon, but the excessive influx of Muslim immigrants and refugees into the EU is a serious issue. Opening the doors of Europe to Turkey and the Muslim world also means opening the door to radical Islamic fundamentalists. Many of whom have already fled to Europe (our readers may recall that the terrorist cell authorities suspect planned the September 11 attacks was based in Hamburg, Germany). To ignore such warnings or to label such commentators as alarmists requires disregarding much of what history has taught us about the relationship between Islam and the western world.'
You Tube/Islam growth
As I wrote on Facebook:
ReplyDeleteMany have said that most Muslims are not terrorists. Some estimate there are as many as 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. Some give a (very conservative, IMO) estimate that only 10% of Muslims are violent jihadists. 10% sounds small until you realize that 10% of 1.5 billion is 15 million, the equivalent population of the 8th largest country in the world, and that it only took 19 Muslims to take down the Twin Towers.
However, terrorism is not the greatest threat. The greatest threat is from within. Under Shari'a law, the non-Muslim would not have equal rights with the Muslim, and could be persecuted, harassed, or even killed.
Jihadist Muslims believe the whole world should submit to Islam, so, when they come to the U.S., Canada or Europe, they want to see Shari'a law being implemented. The goal of jihadists, whether they will admit it or not, is to Islamicize the West.
In the Qur'an and Hadith...in the teachings of Muhammad, in Islamic tradition, theology and law...there are mandates commanding Muslims to wage war against unbelievers. This is the reason there have been so many jihadi attacks against civilians only.
Experts say the method of radical jihad is used to implement an ultimate goal. Shari'a law is the goal of jihad. Jihadists fought in order to bring Shari'a law to a land where it is not enforced today. Shari'a is Islamic law. Islamic law is considered to be (by Muslims) the law of God, just as much as Christians understand the Ten Commandments to be the law of God.
ReplyDeleteSome have said that Osama bin Ladin, terrorists and militants have hijacked Islam. Yet those were Muslims doing those things. They were informed and motivated by their interpretation of Islam---their belief in Islam. And to deny that is to deny the responsibility among the teachers of Islam today, who still teach jihad.
It's much easier for Muslims (since Islam gives them no assurance of salvation) to go into Paradise through jihad/martyrdom, than to perform all the rituals and duties, and still not know for sure whether they will go to Paradise or not. The Qur'an says that martyrs killed in the way of Allah, or fighting for Allah, will go straight into Paradise.
ReplyDeleteWhile the theology has been set in place for centuries, relatively recent oil wealth has allowed for the exporting of jihad on a massive scale, by countries like Saudi Arabia, home of 15 out of 19 of the 9/11 hijackers (and Saudi Arabia is also where Mecca is located).
The U.S. pays for the jihad against the U.S. at the gas pump every day. And who gets the money? The Saudis. The Saudis have no interest in any kind of real alliance with the U.S. Islamic supremacist doctrine militates against that kind of an alliance, except for an alliance of convenience, where you use the unbelievers for what you can get out of them, and then you discard them when you no longer need them. And it seems that step is coming. But right now, the Saudis are pretending to be our friends, and we have this business relationship. But they have been the chief financiers of the global jihad around the world. How can they be our allies and friends while they are the main ideological and financial foundation and source for our enemies?
ReplyDeleteThe word 'Islam' means 'submission.' A devout Muslim thinks there will be world peace when the whole world has submitted to the will of Allah. A so-called 'moderate' Muslim thinks the world will submit to Allah in the distant future---or so I hear---so, since it's so far away, and it's not going to happen during our lifetime, they (supposedly) have the attitude, "Let's just get along with everybody." However, a violent jihadist Muslim thinks that the world will submit to Allah NOW, so they want to be a part of forcing that to happen.
ReplyDeleteThe only answer to all these things that are happening around us, is the gospel of Jesus Christ. There is no other solution. The more Muslims that come to Christ (and there are millions coming to Christ through dreams and visions), the less Muslims are left for the terrorists to recruit. And, since more Muslims are moving to Western nations, and multiplying within Western nations, the mission field has come to us (Western Christians).
ReplyDeleteSo, in light of the bad news of the progress of radical Islam in our world, is there any hope? Yes. As much as we hear about the progress of radical Islam on the march, there is another story to be told: Muslims coming to faith in Jesus Christ.
ReplyDeleteAlthough there may still be countless Muslims who are not interested in Christ, things are changing. Various sources report that although there may be many Muslims not interested in the gospel of Jesus Christ, there is a Christian revival, as Arabs, young and old alike, educated and those who are not educated are turning to Christ. Those who do often pay a heavy price for their new faith.
"I see many Arabic-speaking people turning to Christ, accepting Him as Lord and Savior," Nizar Shaheen, host of Light for the Nations, a Christian program seen throughout the Muslim world, said as reported on the website, www.cbn.com. "It's happening all over the Arab world. It's happening in North Africa. It's happening in the Middle East....in the Gulf countries....Canada and the United States."
Other experts say that that current Christian revival among Muslims is unprecedented, among all age groups, educational backgrounds, and among male and females.
One such convert is Achmad Muhammed, a Wahhabi sheik, who came from one of the most violent forms of Islam, a man who hated Christians and the Christian church. He now says that since he committed his life to Jesus Christ, He forgave his sins and gave him eternal life and peace.
A part of the evangelical spark among Muslims involves atheistic China. Chinese house churches, in the country which greatly persecute Christians, plan to send 100,000 missionaries through many Muslim nations and back to Israel. (This was a couple years ago when they said this, so I assume this is already happening.)
The evangelization of the Muslim world has also involved the work of evangelists, satellite television, and the Internet.
Christine Darg, author of The Jesus Visions: Signs and Wonders in the Muslim World, said God is revealing throughout the Arab world how that God let His Son die on the cross and be raised again from the dead to provide the forgiveness of sins for the whole world-including Muslims.
Muslims who do become Christians, however, can face persecution, discrimination, or even martyrdom.
Russ,
ReplyDeleteRegarding your audio message:
We are a society of entertainment, and too many Western seminaries, televangelists and pastors teach all sorts of false doctrines. In light of all this, your theology and teaching are light years superior to many theology professors, seminary professors and televangelists, from what I have seen. If more professors taught the truth as you do, we would be far better off.
Jeff,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the kind words in regard to the audio presentation (I have a comment in the works in the main body) and for your posts on Islam.
Russ:)
'Many have said that most Muslims are not terrorists.'
ReplyDeleteI agree, most Muslims clearly are not.
'Some estimate there are as many as 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. Some give a (very conservative, IMO) estimate that only 10% of Muslims are violent jihadists. 10% sounds small until you realize that 10% of 1.5 billion is 15 million, the equivalent population of the 8th largest country in the world, and that it only took 19 Muslims to take down the Twin Towers.'
10% is 150, 000, 000 million.
'However, terrorism is not the greatest threat. The greatest threat is from within. Under Shari'a law, the non-Muslim would not have equal rights with the Muslim, and could be persecuted, harassed, or even killed.'
Yes.
'Jihadist Muslims believe the whole world should submit to Islam, so, when they come to the U.S., Canada or Europe, they want to see Shari'a law being implemented. The goal of jihadists, whether they will admit it or not, is to Islamicize the West.'
This type of law should not be allowed, as noted.
'Experts say the method of radical jihad is used to implement an ultimate goal. Shari'a law is the goal of jihad. Jihadists fought in order to bring Shari'a law to a land where it is not enforced today. Shari'a is Islamic law. Islamic law is considered to be (by Muslims) the law of God, just as much as Christians understand the Ten Commandments to be the law of God.'
ReplyDeleteYes.
Legal Definition
Sharia Law
'Muslim or Islamic law, both civil and criminal justice as well as regulating individual conduct both personal and moral. The custom-based body of law based on the Koran and the religion of Islam. Because, by definition, Muslim states are theocracies, religious texts are law, the latter distinguished by Islam and Muslims in their application, as Sharia or Sharia law.'
'But right now, the Saudis are pretending to be our friends, and we have this business relationship. But they have been the chief financiers of the global jihad around the world. How can they be our allies and friends while they are the main ideological and financial foundation and source for our enemies?'
ReplyDeleteThis appears to be well-documented and discussed in the media.
'Christine Darg, author of The Jesus Visions: Signs and Wonders in the Muslim World, said God is revealing throughout the Arab world how that God let His Son die on the cross and be raised again from the dead to provide the forgiveness of sins for the whole world-including Muslims.
ReplyDeleteMuslims who do become Christians, however, can face persecution, discrimination, or even martyrdom.'
May the gospel message gain momentum throughout the West as well.
10% is 150, 000, 000 million.
ReplyDeleteYes, my mistake. Thanks for the correction.
No problem...I make many.
ReplyDeleteRuss,
ReplyDeleteRegarding your critics:
I was in
BSF Int'l (Bible Study Fellowship) for over 3 years. The 3rd year, I was a Discussion Leader---Discussion Leaders lead classes of about 25 men each. On Saturday mornings at 5 AM, all the Discussion Leaders met together with the Teaching Leader to pray, sing hymns and go over the lesson each of us would do that week with our classes. One week, it was my turn to lead the discussion for all the Discussion Leaders. That year (for 9 months) we were studying the Books of Moses (minus Genesis, which was a separate study). We had to do homiletics on Exodus 33-34 the previous week, so, in the required summary of the previous week's lesson, I had turned my summary of Exodus 33-34 (which I had created through homiletics) into a rap song. Well, I performed my 'rap song' for them, and, though some of the Discussion Leaders really liked it, the Teaching Leader did not, and very much frowned upon it (even though our Miami group was much more 'liberal' than the stuffy groups in other cities and states, which I experienced when I attended a Leader's Conference in Charlotte, NC). They did not allow such "freedom of expression." So, even though that was the best (and most intensive) Bible study I have ever participated in, they were quite strict. (I did like the fact that no one was allowed to reveal what denomination they were a part of, or what church they attended, for the purpose that denomination would not cause strife or division among us.)
So, that was a case of an area where too much 'letting loose' was not appreciated. BTW, I'm glad I turned those two chapters into a rap song, because I still remember it, and because of that, I still remember what those two chapters are about.
Thanks, Jeff.
ReplyDeletePondering...
This is not thekingpin68 academic site, but even still I want this to be an academic site featuring satire. I need to still be academic and that requires a certain seriousness and professionalism in my presentation. It is not preaching, or a motivational talk, it is lecturing.
Yes, if I actually go on radio or television I will loosen up a bit from an academic lecture and my blog audio posts allow me to work on approaches to teaching in different ways. But, I think that many criticisms of my audio presentation (there have not been many and comments have generally been positive) ultimately will go back to the fact that many in Western society simply dislike theology and especially academic theology and philosophy of religion as well.
I simply am not going to win over certain persons, I would estimate in the double figures percentage wise.
Man, this went on the air. Warning bad language.
ReplyDeleteCBC Translator Loses It!
CBC Translator Loses It!
ReplyDeleteWow. Well, so much for 'professionalism.' Society has become so immoral, that 'rules of ethics' have been thrown out, it seems.
Well, since 9/11, not only have schools been teaching kids Islam, and not only have there been more than 14,000 distinctly jihad attacks since 9/11, but it seems now we have surrendered to our enemies and given them rule over us. It may not be long before we are no longer allowed to celebrate Christmas in the West.
ReplyDeleteIslamic mosque built at 9/11 Ground Zero
Yes, not that I want to dwell on crude language on my blogs, obviously I do not, but I was surprised by the lack of professionalism. However, I can relate to the burst of anger and cursing. Sometimes, I just do not react to evil and suffering as well as I could.
ReplyDeleteCheers, Jeff.
I just got this e-mail:
ReplyDeleteHello,
I'm Eunice from SeoBlogReviews.com.
I would like to know if by any chance you would be interested in getting paid to publish reviews of products and websites on your blog http://jeffjenkinsocala.blogspot.com/.
If you are interested please let us know the amount of money you want in order to publish a review by clicking the following link:
http://blog.seoblogreviews.com/default/index/99f5f1414143ff878b1afefdafe05b30
As soon as you do that we'll start sending you paid review proposals from our customers.
Thanks,
The SeoBlogReviews.com Team
"...please let us know the amount of money you want"???
(1) Since when does anyone pay you whatever you want? Raising one red flag for that.
(2) I clicked on the link (I'm hoping I did not get any malware from it---maybe I should run a virus scan and a spyware scan), and it asks for my Paypal account number. That brings up a red flag, as well.
I also saw reviews that were suspicious of this same e-mail (they, too, had gotten this e-mail) HERE, HERE, HERE, and HERE.
'I would like to know if by any chance you would be interested in getting paid to publish reviews of products and websites on your blog...
ReplyDeleteIf you are interested please let us know the amount of money you want in order to publish a review by clicking the following link:'
I received an email like that a few months ago, but decided I did not want to publish that material on my blog.
Hey Russ, I have already linked you at my new blog location.
ReplyDeleteRichmond Evangelical Examiner.
Hi Jim, yes I see thekingpin68 is still linked there. We are linked reciprocally.
ReplyDeleteO.k., Here is the form "comment" I've been sending out to all of my blogging pals.
ReplyDeleteUse this address if you intend to add it to your side bar. I will not write the King Pin because, he looks like a thug:).
No, just share this info with him. Thanks
I just figured out a way for me to keep up with my former blogging pals and promote your blog. I am permitted to post the same content on Blogspot as I will at Richmond Evangelical Examiner. So, I have created a Richmond Evangelical Examiner blog, in Blogspot. Your link is already on my page. Just use this url to add my link to your side bar and we can begin exchanging traffic again and staying in touch.
I’m polling the group I have linked in my side bar to ask if you all prefer that I use the link list format or the blog roll format. The blog role format is the one that places the most recent blog postings at the top of the list. Let me know what you prefer. I tally the vote in a week. Email me at jeleasure1@verizon.net
Okay, now I see.
ReplyDeleteI will link that blog with satire and theology and thekingpin68 in a bit.
Thanks my friend.
Rifqa Bary wins a round: apostate girl doesn't have to sit down with parents she fears will kill her
ReplyDelete"… the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'" (Sahih al-Bukhari vol. 9, No. 57 p. 45)
In Shari’ah law, the penalty for a Muslim who departs from Islam is death.
'Ikrimah said: 'Ali burned some people who retreated from Islam. When Ibn 'Abbas was informed of it, he said: If it had been I, I would not have them burned, for the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Do not inflict Allah's punishment on anyone, but would have had killed them on account of the statement of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him). The Apostle said: Kill those who change their religion. — Sunan Abu Dawud, Book XXXIII, Kitab al-Hudud
A book published in the United States, Reliance of the Traveller: A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law, is a translation of 'Umdat al-salik by Ibn Naqib (died 1368 A.D.). This Shari’ah legal manual explicitly presents the punishment for Muslim who leaves Islam. It states that, if a sane person leaves Islam voluntarily, the person is to be killed by the proper Islamic authority. However, if someone kills an apostate on his own, the killer does not face the capital punishment, because he has killed someone who deserves to die. Although this book is published in the United States, it has not been denounced by Muslims. In fact, it is featured by many respected Islamic bookstores without a word warning that it advocates murderous acts contrary to human rights and constitutional law. Many fundamentalist Muslims believe that, even within Western nations, Shari’a law is supreme over all human legal systems.
o8.1 When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to he killed.
o8.2 In such a case, it is obligatory for the caliph (A: or his representative) to ask him to repent and return to Islam. If he does, it is accepted from him, but if he refuses, he is immediately killed.
o8.4 There is no indemnity for killing an apostate (O: or any expiation, since it is killing someone who deserves to die).
o8.5 If he apostatizes from Islam and returns several times, it (O: i.e. his return to Islam, which occurs when he states the two Testifications of Faith (def: o8.7(12))) is accepted from him, though he is disciplined (o17).
Quotations from: Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri, Reliance of the Traveller: A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law, Translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller, Amana Publications, Beltsville, MD, 1997 Revised Edition, p. 595-598.
This is about the organization which is providing the lawyer for Rifqa's Muslim dad: CAIR
Good news.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Jeff.
Thanks for the news, Jeff. I'm going to run this by my friend who is Morish Science.
ReplyDeleteMoorish
ReplyDeleteThanks, Jim.
Thanks for the news, Jeff. I'm going to run this by my friend who is Morish Science.
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome, Jim.
I'm not familiar with that organization, so I checked out the link that Russ added, and I also looked them up on Wikipedia.
From Wikipedia, it says this:
"Drew [the founder of the Moorish Science Temple of America] reported that during his travels, he met with a high priest of an Egyptian cult of magic. In one version of Drew's biography, the leader saw him as a reincarnation of the founder of the cult, while in others, the priest considered Drew a reincarnation of Jesus, the Buddha, Muhammed and other religious prophets. According to the biography, the cult trained Drew in mysticism and gave him a lost section of the Koran.
This text came to be known as the Holy Koran of the Moorish Science Temple of America (note: this text is never spelled Qur'an). It is also known as the Circle Seven Koran because of its cover, which features a red "7" surrounded by a blue circle. Drew took parts of his book from the Rosicrucian work, Unto Thee I Grant and most of it from The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ, published in 1908 by an esoteric Ohio preacher named Levi Dowling. In The Aquarian Gospel, Dowling described Jesus's supposed travels in India, Egypt, and Palestine during the years of his life which are not accounted for by the New Testament. Drew and his followers used this material to say that "Jesus and his followers were Asiatic." ("Asiatic" was the term Drew used for all dark or olive-colored people; he labeled all whites as European. He suggested that all Asiatics should be allied.)
His sources meant that Drew created Moorish Science out of a "network of alternative spiritualities that focused on the power of the individual to bring about personal transformation through mystical knowledge of the divine within."
"His version of Islam was quite different from the traditional one, and his text, the Holy Koran of the Moorish Science Temple, had more about Jesus than Muhammed. Drew taught his followers to "face east when praying, regard Friday as their holy day, and call their god Allah and their leader Prophet. But the similarities to mainstream Islam end there. Moorish-Americans drink alcohol and eat pork. They do not pray five times a day or travel to Mecca." Many hymns sung are recognizable as adapted from traditional Christian hymns common in black churches."
"Drew claimed that African Americans were all descended from Moors and were of Muslim heritage, and that their true nature had been withheld from them. In the traditions he founded, male members of the Temple wear a fez as head covering; women wear a turban. They added the suffixes Bey or El to their surnames, to signify Moorish heritage as well as their taking on the new religion. It was also a way to claim and proclaim a new identity other than that lost to slavery of their ancestors in the United States."
Since this is, after all, satire and theology©, I would like to contribute a little humor:
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THINGS I DID TO DESERVE THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE
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Illustrated by Michael Moore
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MY CHRISTIAN ACCOMPLISHMENTS & HOW I HELPED AFTER KATRINA
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THE SEQUEL
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Here is mine:
ReplyDeleteYoung semi-theologically orientated women I have dated in Greater Vancouver and Greater Manchester.
By Russell Norman Murray
Young semi-theologically orientated women I have dated in Greater Vancouver and Greater Manchester.
ReplyDeleteBy Russell Norman Murray
Good one, Russ!
Here's a site that tells you to love and support Obama, and hate the white man:
Truth First
There's even a poll you can take:
Does the white man have a soul?
-Yes
-No
-Not sure
-Only some white men
It also has a questionnaire about Obama, where the one negative answer you can choose about Obama is to choose that you are white and a racist.
The Nov. 2008 article is entitled, "The World Awaits the Rule of Obama," and states, "Obama will rule with African wisdom that has been with us since the beginning of civilization. He is the son of Kings and Queens."
Looking further down the page, it has a review of the newest "Star Trek" movie, noting that "Star Trek promotes a future of white supremacy and African subjugation."
Another article is entitled, "Is the white man the Devil?"
I think that site should be given some kind of award, though I can't think of a name for the award at the moment. I also think Rick should visit that site and leave a few comments; I think he would have fun there.
Hey, did you know?
ReplyDeleteJesus was killed because he was a black African!
I bet you didn't know this!
ReplyDeleteRudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer is racist!
Here's another one. I will probably be busy Friday night, so I'm pretending this is Friday.
ReplyDeleteRacism and the truth about Christmas
'Young semi-theologically orientated women I have dated in Greater Vancouver and Greater Manchester.
ReplyDeleteBy Russell Norman Murray
Good one, Russ!
'Truth First'
Actually it is 'Truth Hurts'.
Thanks, Mr. Jenkins.
With my walking/prayer/sprints for one hour I have just given the Lord a mixed bag of complaining, complaining, and thanking him. I should thank him here as I had my D-Link network secured tonight and it has been many times better. Thank you, Lord. Previously when I had a secured network it was worse than unsecured.
ReplyDeleteFrom the black Jesus site:
'One of the biggest cover-ups in human history involves the truth about Jesus. Jesus was not white man but was a son of Africa was killed by the white man for being a black African.
So fearful is the white man of Jesus and his message of peace, we have seen the white man do everything possible to hide and distort the meaning of Jesus. The white man has turned the birth of Jesus into a commercial affair meant to exploit the working poor.One of the biggest cover-ups in human history involves the truth about Jesus. Jesus was not white man but was a son of Africa was killed by the white.'
From:
Helta Skeletor
'Helter Skelter
Charles Manson was good at manipulating people. He took pieces from various religions to form his own philosophy.
When the Beatles released their White Album in 1968, Manson believed their song "Helter Skelter" predicted an upcoming race war. "Helter skelter," Manson believed, was going to occur in the summer of 1969 when blacks were going to rise up and
slaughter all the white people. He told his followers that they would be saved because they would go underground, literally, by traveling to an underground city of gold located in Death Valley. However, when the Armageddon that Manson had predicted did not occur, he said he and his followers must show the blacks how to do it.'
Perhaps the black African Jesus author should give Charles Manson a visit and they can compare notes. Both views are virtually equally historically accurate.
Cartoon Neil Peart drum solos
ReplyDeleteNot a fan of the show...
Neil Peart in Aqua Teen Hunger Force Movie 2
ATHF Drum Solo Of Life
Perhaps the black African Jesus author should give Charles Manson a visit and they can compare notes. Both views are virtually equally historically accurate.
ReplyDeleteExactly. Good comparison.
A guy with a Muslim site just left the exact same comment on 4 or 5 of my blog articles, basically spamming me. His comment attacked Christianity, calling Christians liars, and said that Jesus probably didn't exist. Apparently, he's not even a good Muslim, since Muslims believe Jesus existed and was a prophet. In any case, I approved one of his comments and answered it, and rejected all the duplicates, which he left each within a different article. No need to answer the exact same questions 4 or 5 times within 4 or 5 different articles. If he were to continue spamming me in that manner, I suppose I could report him to Blogger.
He sounds like a religious troll. Blogger is not all that responsive...
ReplyDeleteCheers, Jeff.
On the other hand, Jesus...
ReplyDelete1) created Gospel
2) called everyone "Brother"
3) got an unfair trial
As far as the critic goes, just remember, you cannot please everyone.
ReplyDeleteI know that I wont even bother trying to please everyone, and if they dont like what I say, then move on. Rick b
Thanks, Rick.
ReplyDeleteMerry Christmas to you and family.
Cool, Chucky...
ReplyDeleteThat same blog troll just left all different comments in 4 or 5 of my articles (last time it was the same exact comment in 4 or 5 different articles), but all he was doing was calling Christians liars, so I just rejected them all, because he is obviously not seeking intelligent conversation or discussion.
ReplyDeleteI gave two of Rick's dry spices away as Christmas gifts. I gave "Sorrow" to my youngest brother and his wife, and "Happiness" to my sister and her husband. My brother wanted to bet me $5 to put a spoonful of it on our tongues and see who cries first. I turned him down, because I figured he would beat me.
Jeff, I will post the comic I received for Christmas on my Facebook wall. The inside cover has the picture of the Kingpin with the New York skyline that you used for a graphic presentation for my blogs.
ReplyDeleteIt is good that you deal in a tough manner with trolls. It is good to help our friend Rick.
Jeff said I gave two of Rick's dry spices away as Christmas gifts. I gave "Sorrow" to my youngest brother and his wife, and "Happiness" to my sister and her husband. My brother wanted to bet me $5 to put a spoonful of it on our tongues and see who cries first. I turned him down, because I figured he would beat me.
ReplyDeleteThats funny. Want some fun, give him a big spoon full of the eternal suffering and tell him if he does not cry you will give him 10 dollars. Even if he does not cry he will think that 10 dollars was not worth the stomach cramps and pain at his expense.
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Merry Christmas Russ and everyone, a day late. LOL.
Rick b
Happy New Year, Rick.
ReplyDeleteRuss:)
Every year for new years I have a house full of friends over, we watch movies from 12:00 noon till midnight or later, about 8 movies and were doing it again this year. what are you doing. Rick
ReplyDeleteRuss,
ReplyDeleteIt is good that you deal in a tough manner with trolls.
And I just now joined a Facebook group, which has almost 400,000 members, which is a patriotic group (or so I thought). After leaving several comments from American Founders about patriotism, a couple people left comments attacking America and its soldiers. But one person left numerous ad hominem attacks, ad nauseam, calling me names, etc. I made one reply to him, and I decided I will ignore any further comments he may leave, because I understand that trolls feed off of others replying to their immature, hateful rantings. I also wonder if maybe God allows blog trolls and Facebook trolls to remind us why there is a Hell. That may sound mean, but when you spend a lot of time on discussion boards, in chat rooms, etc., you come to find out that, on the Internet, there are people who are very hateful and extremely evil and malicious. Yet, to such, Romans 12:19 says, "Never take your own revenge, beloved, but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written, "VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY," says the Lord."
Rick,
ReplyDeleteWant some fun, give him a big spoon full of the eternal suffering and tell him if he does not cry you will give him 10 dollars. Even if he does not cry he will think that 10 dollars was not worth the stomach cramps and pain at his expense.
LOL! If I were not unemployed and could afford to give away $10, I think I would do that. I think he would take me up on that offer, and I think it would indeed be funny.
Jeff and everyone else, I am having a product giveaway, so feel free to leave a reply to enter.
I'll drop by.
Merry day-after-Christmas, Rick!
'I also wonder if maybe God allows blog trolls and Facebook trolls to remind us why there is a Hell.'
ReplyDeleteReasonable point.
Now that takes balls!
ReplyDeleteThe devout Muslim who attempted to take down the plane with a bomb had the device hooked up to his balls.
Underwear bomb
'President Barack Obama was notified of the incident and discussed it with security officials, the White House said. Officials said he was monitoring the situation and receiving regular updates from his vacation spot in Hawaii.'
ReplyDeleteMust be nice...
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