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In Manchester back in 1999 to 2001, one of the kindest people I dealt with was Max, a Pakistani, Muslim, although based on our dialogue, apparently not too devout of a Muslim. He was basically a cultural Muslim.
As I respected him at his Popeye's restaurant, unlike many of the English locals that disrespected him. Max respected me.
Crumpsall was a 'shady' area.
Max would always take personal time to specifically, specially make my meal and we would discuss Christianity and Islam and other topics. Sometimes he would invite me to sit, or if he was busy with customers I would chat with him while waiting for the take-out order. He allowed me to use the personal washroom as an act of kindness rather than me having to wait until walking back to my flat.
He made delicious pizza, burgers and fries.
The area was Crumpsall in Greater Manchester and near Popeye's restaurant one day a resident kindly told me, "Beware this is like the Bronx'.
Minus the Yankees of course.
It was apparently very close to a centre of the former Industrial Revolution, but was at that time suffering many years of economic decay.
When in the process of moving to another local area, before I left I promised Max that my British Columbia friend (Chuck visiting from his work in Belgium) and I would visit him one more time prior to me moving back to British Columbia for good. When Pope Chucklins and I returned to visit Max at Popeye's he was so impressed that I kept my word, he made Chuck and I meals for free.
This Muslim gentleman, Max, showed me more kindness and goodness than most people that I have known as well in my life, including most Christians.
Chuck was impressed with Max and the food as well.
I have a similar example, which I will not go into detail with my current work in corporate security and very kind trainers of other faiths and philosophies.
Demonstrating more kindness and love to me than some, not all, to be clear, of my Christian academic advisers.
Religious implications of these two examples.
Obviously, I am not infinite. I am a finite procreated creation from God (Genesis 1-3) and as well I am sinful (Romans 1-6).
However, if I had the power, I would never in my human nature and limited free will damn such persons to physical death or everlasting hell, apart from God.
Even with my Biblical Christian perspective and acknowledgment and theological understanding of human sinfulness and human unacceptability to God as present flesh and blood (1 Corinthians 15); and the lack of belief in the Triune God and Christ and therefore non-regeneration, being incompatibility with the holiness of God, I would keep these persons in the earthly realm in hope that they would come to Christ eventually. I would hope and pray that those I care about and care about me would be saved.
I love whom loves me, not to state that I do not with the guidance of the Holy Spirit attempt to love humanity. But Christ himself stated that even the Gentiles love each other (Matthew 5).
In other words it is a common human trait to love those that love you.
I can acknowledge that those outside of Christ can be significantly kind, loving and moral, even in comparison to some Christians.
But I do not as a human being have the divine choice of life or death, or everlasting or punishment for anyone.
I am not divine, deity or God. Nor I am fit as finite and sinful to properly fully judge any person.
This issue, broadly speaking is where some non-Biblical Christian religions and some within radical liberal Christian err.
They assume that 'good' persons, that is good persons by their definition or some kind of consensus should have everlasting life, if there is such a thing and if non-existence is not the end for all humanity.
It is as if a person is more than 50% good or like, as opposed to bad, for example, then he or she should be saved and have everlasting/eternal life.
But the Biblical, theological model is that salvation and everlasting/eternal life is through Christ and his atoning and resurrection work (John 1, those born of God, John 3, one must be born again through the Spirit and those with belief in Christ shall have eternal life, John 14, that Christ is the only way to the Father).
Further, God through Christ and the Holy Spirit in Trinity, elects and predestines those in Christ (Ephesians 1, Romans 8) and this is through grace through faith to salvation for good works. James 2 also providing the need for a believer in Christ to demonstrate an alive faith. A faith in the true Biblical God.
Therefore, my personal views, outside of illumination from Scripture in context, and the views of any finite person, religion or liberal Christian church, outside of illumination from Scripture in context, on death and everlasting/eternal life or everlasting/eternal death are not determinate or meaningful in the earthly and everlasting realm, destiny of anyone.
One can witness to all nations to hopefully make disciples (Matthew 28) and this would include prayer as do all aspects of Christian life. But related religious views and theology from a reasonable Christian perspective should be Biblical, as this is allowing God to speak, so to speak, through documented religious history.
Not relying primarily or significantly on religious and personal, empirical and philosophical sentiment.
This track 'Dragon Song' and the 1970 'Devotion' instrumental album has really grown on
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The related story is sick and I do not wish to blog on it, but when I saw the photo it made me chuckle (no offense, Chuckles). He looks like he fits the story, I suppose.
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ReplyDeleteMax would always take personal time to specifically, specially make my meal and we would discuss Christianity and Islam and other topics.
ReplyDeleteUnlike most Westerners, many of whom generally avoid talking about religion or politics, Muslims love to talk about religion.
Demonstrating more kindness and love to me than some, not all, to be clear, of my Christian academic advisers.
There have been some Atheists who have been nicer than some Christians, in my opinion. And I knew a Mormon guy, who I spent months trying to witness to, that was an incredibly nice guy.
However, if I had the power, I would never in my human nature and limited free will damn such persons to physical death or everlasting hell, apart from God.
“…For the LORD sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the LORD looks on the heart.” (1 Samuel 16:7b)
…I would keep these persons in the earthly realm in hope that they would come to Christ eventually. I would hope and pray that those I care about and care about me would be saved.
“The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.” (2 Peter 3:9)
They assume that 'good' persons, that is good persons by their definition or some kind of consensus should have everlasting life, if there is such a thing and if non-existence is not the end for all humanity.
Yes, people tend to compare themselves to others; actually, they usually compare themselves to the very worst examples in human history, such as Hitler or mass murderers. But God doesn’t grade on a curve; He compares us to His own pure holiness.
It is as if a person is more than 50% good or like, as opposed to bad, for example, then he or she should be saved and have everlasting/eternal life.
Yes. Of course, if an earthly judge went by the same standards, and ignored crimes just because most of the time the person had acted lawfully, we would call that person a horrible judge, and we would want that judge fired, and maybe even put in prison.
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ReplyDeleteNaghmeh Abedini's husband, Saeed, is an American pastor who has been imprisoned in Iran's notorious Evin Prison for more than a year. He is serving an eight year sentence because of his Christian faith.
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ReplyDeletePastor Saeed Abedini shares a message to the persecuted church, just prior to his wrongful imprisonment in Iran.
All around the world, the church is experiencing persecution in one form or another. In one place, Christians might be singled out for poor treatment in the work place. In another nation, they may lose their property or homes because of faith in Christ. Still other believers may be imprisoned or in the worst situations even die for the Good News.
For Such A Time As This
ReplyDeleteOn September 26, 2012, Saeed Abedini was imprisoned in Iran while working with the Iranian government to start an orphanage. After being beaten and abused, he was charged with undermining the state, and sentenced to 8 years in a brutal prison. This is his family's story.
Saeed Abedini's Story: Depressed Muslim to Christian Humanitarian
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ReplyDelete'“The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.” (2 Peter 3:9)'
ReplyDeleteEven if this 2 Peter section is interpreted as 'you' being believers and not in a salvation context, it is still true that God can choose one that is at one time in Islam, for Christ.
Thanks, Jeff,.
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Met briefly with Gary Habermas @ Northview. A very good man and helpful with leads... He stated very few academic institutions are hiring today. Good of him to continually assist.
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ReplyDeleteIn the beginning was the Plan.
And then came the Assumptions.
And the Assumptions were without form.
And the Plan was without substance.
And darkness was upon the face of the Workers.
And they spoke among themselves, saying, "It is a crock", and it stinks."
And the Workers went unto their Supervisors and said, "It is a pail of dung, and we can't live with the smell."
And the Supervisors went unto their Managers, saying, "It is a container of excrement, and it is very strong, such that none may abide by it."
And the Managers went unto their Directors, saying, "It is a vessel of fertilizer, and none may abide its strength."
And the Directors spoke among themselves, saying to one another, "It contains that which aids plant growth, and it is very strong."
And the Directors went to the Vice Presidents, saying unto them, "It promotes growth, and it is very powerful."
And the Vice Presidents went to the President, saying unto him, "This new plan will actively promote the growth and vigor of the company with very powerful effects."
And the President looked upon the Plan and saw that it was good.
And the Plan became Policy.
And this is how 'stuff' happens
Such is much secular bandwagon philosophy...
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PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE WORDING AND SPELLING. IF YOU KNOW THE BIBLE EVEN A LITTLE, YOU'LL FIND THIS HILARIOUS! IT COMES FROM A CATHOLIC ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEST.
KIDS WERE ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS. THE FOLLOWING 25 STATEMENTS ABOUT THE BIBLE WERE WRITTEN BY CHILDREN. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN RETOUCHED OR CORRECTED.INCORRECT SPELLING HAS BEEN LEFT IN.
1. IN THE FIRST BOOK OF THE BIBLE, GUINESSIS. GOD GOT TIRED OF CREATING THE WORLD SO HE TOOK THE SABBATH OFF.
2. ADAM AND EVE WERE CREATED FROM AN APPLE TREE. NOAH'S WIFE WAS JOAN OF ARK.. NOAH BUILT AND ARK AND THE ANIMALS CAME ON IN PEARS.
3. LOTS WIFE WAS A PILLAR OF SALT DURING THE DAY, BUT A BALL OF FIRE DURING THE NIGHT.
4. THE JEWS WERE A PROUD PEOPLE AND THROUGHOUT HISTORY THEY HAD TROUBLE WITH UNSYMPATHETIC GENITALS.
5. SAMPSON WAS A STRONG MAN WHO LET HIMSELF BE LED ASTRAY BY A JEZEBEL LIKE DELILAH.
6. SAMSON SLAYED THE PHILISTINES WITH THE AXE OF THE APOSTLES.
7. MOSES LED THE JEWS TO THE RED SEA WHERE THEY MADE UNLEAVENED BREAD, WHICH IS BREAD WITHOUT ANY INGREDIENTS.
8. THE EGYPTIANS WERE ALL DROWNED IN THE DESSERT. AFTERWARDS, MOSES WENT UP TO MOUNT CYANIDE TO GET THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.
9. THE FIRST COMMANDMENTS WAS WHEN EVE TOLD ADAM TO EAT THE APPLE.
10. THE SEVENTH COMMANDMENT IS THOU SHALT NOT ADMIT ADULTERY.
11. MOSES DIED BEFORE HE EVER REACHED CANADA THEN JOSHUA LED THE HEBREWS IN THE BATTLE OF GERITOL.
12. THE GREATEST MIRICLE IN THE BIBLE IS WHEN JOSHUA TOLD HIS SON TO STAND STILL AND HE OBEYED HIM.
13. DAVID WAS A HEBREW KING WHO WAS SKILLED AT PLAYING THE LIAR. HE FOUGHT THE FINKELSTEINS, A RACE OF PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN BIBLICAL TIMES.
14. SOLOMON, ONE OF DAVIDS SONS, HAD 300 WIVES AND 700 PORCUPINES.
15. WHEN MARY HEARD SHE WAS THE MOTHER OF JESUS, SHE SANG THE MAGNA CARTA.
16. WHEN THE THREE WISE GUYS FROM THE EAST SIDE ARRIVED THEY FOUND JESUS IN THE MANAGER.
17. JESUS WAS BORN BECAUSE MARY HAD AN IMMACULATE CONTRAPTION.
18. ST. JOHN THE BLACKSMITH DUMPED WATER ON HIS HEAD.
19. JESUS ENUNCIATED THE GOLDEN RULE, WHICH SAYS TO DO UNTO OTHERS BEFORE THEY DO ONE TO YOU. HE ALSO EXPLAINED A MAN DOTH NOT LIVE BY SWEAT ALONE.
20. IT WAS A MIRICLE WHEN JESUS ROSE FROM THE DEAD AND MANAGED TO GET THE TOMBSTONE OFF THE ENTRANCE.
21. THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOWED THE LORD WERE CALLED THE 12 DECIBELS.
22. THE EPISTELS WERE THE WIVES OF THE APOSTLES.
23. ONE OF THE OPPOSSUMS WAS ST. MATTHEW WHO WAS ALSO A TAXIMAN.
24.. ST. PAUL CAVORTED TO CHRISTIANITY, HE PREACHED HOLY ACRIMONY, WHICH IS ANOTHER NAME FOR MARRAIGE.
25. CHRISTIANS HAVE ONLY ONE SPOUSE. THIS IS CALLED MONOTONY.
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ReplyDeleteJesus and Satan were having an on-going argument about who was better on the computer. They had been going at it for days, and frankly God was tired of hearing all the bickering.
ReplyDeleteFinally fed up, God said, 'THAT'S IT! I have had enough. I am going to set up a test that will run for two hours, and from those results, I will judge who does the better job.'
So Satan and Jesus sat down at the keyboards and typed away.
They moused.
They faxed.
They e-mailed.
They e-mailed with attachments.
They downloaded.
They did spreadsheets!
They wrote reports.
They created labels and cards.
They created charts and graphs.
They did some genealogy reports .
They did every job known to man.
Jesus worked with heavenly efficiency and Satan was faster than hell.
Then, ten minutes before their time was up, lightning suddenly flashed across the sky, thunder rolled, rain poured, and, of course, the power went off..
Satan stared at his blank screen and screamed every curse word known in the underworld.
Jesus just sighed..
Finally the electricity came back on, and each of them restarted their computers. Satan started searching frantically, screaming:
'It's gone! It's all GONE! 'I lost everything when the power went out!'
Meanwhile, Jesus quietly started printing out all of his files from the past two hours of work.
Satan observed this and became irate.
'Wait!' he screamed. 'That's not fair! He cheated! How come he has all his work and I don't have any?'
God just shrugged and said,
JESUS SAVES!
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ReplyDeleteA group of guys took a trip to France and decided to attend Mass in a small town, even though none of them understood French. They managed to stand, kneel and sit when the rest of the congregation did, so it wouldn't be obvious they were tourists. At one point, the priest spoke and the man sitting next to them stood up, so they got up, too. The entire congregation broke into hearty laughter.
After the service they approached the priest, who spoke English, and asked him what had been so funny. The priest said he had announced a birth in the parish and asked the father to stand up.
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Fill in shift as trainer likely had to work at another site and so I am filler.
ReplyDeleteI am at work with whom trainer calls F#@##@@ Anglicized name. He is a good guy but too rigged for the trainer and the day shift man as well. ESL is an issue and the mgrs give me tougher duties even though I know less.
Corp. gym membership offered here...
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