Sunday, July 13, 2008

Happy little semiautomatic assault rifle, there.


Bob Ross, Mountain Retreat

From:

It is not well-written, and I did not write it.

http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=71972

Church Sponsored Teen Gun Giveaway Canceled

Windsor Hills Baptist Church of Oklahoma has canceled it's giveaway of a semiautomatic assault rifle at its weekend youth conference because one of the organizers injured his foot. The gun is a prize in the weekend's shooting competition.

The church’s youth pastor, Bob Ross, says “We have 21 hours of preaching and teaching throughout the week,I don’t want people thinking ‘My goodness, we’re putting a weapon in the hand of somebody that doesn’t respect it who are then going to go out.. and kill, That’s not at all what we’re trying to do.” The gun, which cost $800 will be given away next year.


Source: www.koco.com

http://www.koco.com/news/16860079/detail.html

I am not against someone in a home owning a gun for self-defence. But I have two points.

1. Why is a Christian church even considering giving a semiautomatic assault rifle to a teen which is not an adult and may not be responsible with the weapon? Why is a Christian church involved with distributing guns at all? That should be up to licensed gun shops and stores and the civil authorities.

2. The youth pastor's name is Bob Ross! There, a happy little gun for you, and when you shoot those happy little burglars as they break into your happy little house, if you shoot the wrong person during the burglary, remember, there are no mistakes just happy accidents.


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26 comments:

  1. A confusing world we live in today, Russ.

    At first, I thought this story may have represented a church here in Virginia. With our gun shows, you can walk in off of the street and purchase some hellacios fire power without a permit. You do know about Virginia Tech. don't you?

    Jim

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  2. Thanks, David.

    As Bob Ross used to say, 'It's your worl'.

    Russ;)

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  3. Thanks, Jim.

    The shootings at Virginia Tech and like are terrible events.

    Russ

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  4. Ahh, it's Oklahoma. It's out west, and they need guns to shoot those Indians off their property.

    Sorry, I'm in kind of a strange mood today.

    I don't see anything wrong with them handing it out besides the obvious facts that the people attending it probably weren't mature enough to be owning something like that and that churches aren't really there to hand out guns.

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  5. Why is a Christian church involved with distributing guns at all?

    That's easy. So that, when Christian students in schools are asked at gunpoint, "Do you believe in God," they can whip out their semiautomatic and reply, "Yeah! You gotta problem with that?!"

    (Not to make light of school shootings, but there is so much horrific stuff going on in this world today, you just gotta have a sense of humor.)

    The youth pastor's name is Bob Ross! There, a happy little gun for you, and when you shoot those happy little burglars as they break into your happy little house, if you shoot the wrong person during the burglary, remember, there are no mistakes just happy accidents.

    That is hilarious!

    BTW, I just saw on Christian TV that there are many more Jewish Christians in Israel today than there were 10 years ago. They claim there is a Christian revival going on among Jews in Israel. The commentator said that God is lifting the veil from the eyes of the Jewish people.

    The end times are very near, I think. False doctrine is increasing among Christians, natural disasters are increasing in intensity and frequency (for example, just last week, 5 people were killed by lightning in one week...and some say that the chances of being struck by lightning are about one in 3 million, more rare than your chances of winning the jackpot in the Lotto), and many of the prophetic signs are beginning to be fulfilled, it seems.

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  6. Thanks, Jeff. I appreciate the thoughts and I realize that we are in the last days. I still reason more things must occur until the very end of the age, but time will tell.

    Okay, we have another blog troll. I am not going to publish the comments, but I will respond.

    The troll states that an automatic rifle and license can kill in the name of your blank.

    Do you really think I am going to publish that comment? Come on, if you want to have dialogue please show some respect. I am showing you grace by dealing with your first comments.

    Jesus taught persons to love your enemies in Matthew 5: 44 and we are to love others as much as we love ourselves in Matthew 22 and Mark 12. Romans 13 allows the state to use deadly force to maintain law and order. The Christian cannot Biblically take a life outside of the laws of the land within Biblical standards. This would be for self-defence purposes only as a civilian, or for professionally maintaining law and order internally or externally.

    Some Christians have sinned and taken lives in error and some have claimed to be Christian and have taken lives sinfully, but these killings were not done legitimately in Jesus' name.

    The troll noted I have wasted my life studying theology and asks why I do not study astrology.

    Well, if I have wasted my time studying theology then put your name down for the comments and let us see if you can successfully debate my theology, and we shall see how much of a waste of time my worldview is compared to yours. I do not study astrology because I reason it is based on guesswork in some cases and divination in others and I would rather trust in the eternal God that has revealed himself throughout history in Scripture.

    Please do not bother leaving another comment unless you are going to be respectful; Otherwise your comment will go straight into the trash and my other readers will not have the opportunity to find out how much you know about theology in order for you to reason that it is a waste of time to study.

    Happy Sunday.

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  7. The troll noted I have wasted my life studying theology and asks why I do not study astrology.

    LOL! Actually, that's a perfect comment for 'satire and theology!'

    That's like saying, "You've wasted your life studying history! You should have been studying conspiracy theories instead!"

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  8. Good point, Jeff.

    Theology is in broad terms an academic discipline that combines philosophy with Biblical Studies. It takes years of study to understand it and be good at it, and all the rock throwing in the world in not going to change that fact.

    Mr./Ms. Blog Troll, bring me a dream (boop, boop, boop, boop)

    Have the guts to leave your name on the screen (boop, boop, boop, boop)

    Russ:)

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  9. The troll says your wasting your time, this troll is in fact wasting his time if he has no desire to be here. Maybe this troll should go back and climb under the bridge it came out from under. Rick b

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  10. Good point, Rick.

    The troll wanted to tell me I was wasting my life with theology, but the troll did not attempt to tell me why I was wasting my life. Oh well, another intellectually unconvincing troll comment.

    Thanks.

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  11. I cannot believe that this church would be giving an assault rifle to a teenager!!! I think that there could be something else that the church could have given this young person. I understand that this church held a shooting contest, so I am assuming that guns are a norm for this part of the States, but I still find it baffling for a church to give an assault weapon out to a youth. Is he going to use it for hunting?? and if not, why does he need it?
    -Bullets of Buff-
    PS
    Will he be hunting trolls??

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  12. Thanks, I hope this church abandons this practice completely. It is far too problematic.

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  13. Jeff wrote...
    (for example, just last week, 5 people were killed by lightning in one week...and some say that the chances of being struck by lightning are about one in 3 million, more rare than your chances of winning the jackpot in the Lotto)

    Mini stats lesson: the chances of 1 particular person (e.g. you) being struck by lightning is about 1 in 3 million. The chance of any 1 person among, say, 50000 possible targets, would be considerably less (and lesser in inverse proportion to the number of possible targets). 90 people are killed every year in the U.S. by lightning, which is one every 4 days. Even so, if those 5 people were all in the U.S., that would still be very unusual. If that is counting the whole world, then probably not so unusual.
    Having said all that, it does seem like there is a lot more change happening these days, a lot more uncertainty.

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  14. You make sense.

    My Dad was hit in the head with a golf ball once...

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  15. Chucky said:
    Mini stats lesson: the chances of 1 particular person (e.g. you) being struck by lightning is about 1 in 3 million. The chance of any 1 person among, say, 50000 possible targets, would be considerably less (and lesser in inverse proportion to the number of possible targets). 90 people are killed every year in the U.S. by lightning, which is one every 4 days. Even so, if those 5 people were all in the U.S., that would still be very unusual. If that is counting the whole world, then probably not so unusual.

    Ah, man, you took away my drama! I was trying to find the most extreme stats I could, just to make it seem more amazing! Now you had to go and spoil that with logic!

    LOL!

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  16. Russ said:
    My Dad was hit in the head with a golf ball once...

    That's how Chicken Little got started.

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  17. Chucky Chicken Little.

    It sounds like a chicken franchise.

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  18. The problem may be one of perception. Writing, as you are, from Canada, which has some amazing laws for making sure its citizens have no recourse in case of an attack while paying un-called-for taxes for the illusion hat they somehow might have. All that aside, the news article itself was biased on at least two points. First, there is no such thing as a semi-automatic assault rifle. Contradiction in terms. Semi-automatic means it fires once when you pull the trigger. To give the writer benefit of the doubt, it may have been a small hunting rifle with a lightweight stock, such as the Ruger Mini-14 (as if the stock were a hazard?), but more likely, from the mentality of the US press in general, "assault" was tossed in for effect.
    But to judge a person unfit to handle a hunting weapon, regardless of background or training, merely on basis of age? Is everybody uniformly unstable in teen years, and suddenly is issued their clue bag at their 21st birthday party? No, and the NRA and other groups have been offering for years a comprehensive gun safety course which qualifies responsible young people to handle firearms responsibly, so preventing untold accidents and teaching people from the start to treat firearms with respect.
    Thought: If honest people are afraid of a self-stigmatisation of owning a means of protection, dishonest people are well armed, what then of human life, personal/family safety, and civil order? Even if called, the police won't be there for a few minutes, and then take a few minutes to assess the situation, and that would give them time to make the chalk drawings around the warm bodies. Which of course will make the papers, and give the MPs and Congressmen fodder for a call for more police recruitment, giving a false sense of security until next time when...m

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  19. Wikipedia has the following category:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_firearm

    semi-automatic firearm

    It states:

    A semi-automatic, or self-loading firearm is a gun that requires only a trigger pull for each round that is fired, unlike a single-action revolver, a pump-action firearm, a bolt-action firearm, or a lever-action firearm, which require the shooter to manually chamber each successive round. For example, to fire ten rounds in a semi-automatic firearm, the trigger would need to be pulled ten times (once for each round fired), in contrast to a fully automatic firearm, which can continue to fire as long as the trigger is held or until it runs out of ammunition.

    Types of semi-automatic

    Semi-automatic weapons
    There are semi-automatic pistols, rifles, and shotguns. A semi-automatic mode is a common choice on selective fire firearms. Firearms capable of firing bursts of more than one round (usually three) per pull of the trigger, such as the M16A2 rifle, are considered fully automatic.


    I support the ownership of firearms for self-defence at home, but I reason weapons for defence purposes should be owned by adults, and bought at government licensed, not owned, gun shops. As for hunting, the gun could be owned by adults, and borrowed by children of the gun owning adults, but there must be supervision.

    Personally, I reason 21 is too old of an age to become an adult.

    Thanks, Robert.

    Russ:)

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