Wednesday, August 20, 2008
Practical theological lessons from the United Kingdom 1999-2001
Didsbury Village (Greater Manchester)
Practical theological lessons from the United Kingdom 1999-2001
I lived in Manchester from 1999-2001, and began my MPhil/PhD research degrees. I lost my academic appointment in the PhD program at Manchester as my advisor was away in Germany for a year, and his replacement stated that I had to change my theological views from Christian to secular in order to pass. In order to pass I basically would have had to stop writing that God was completely sovereign and yet the problem of evil existed.
I attempted to transfer to a Nazarene Christian college affiliated with Manchester, but that was forbidden to occur by Manchester. I soon quit and signed with Wales, Cardiff and started my MPhil thesis, but then eventually moved back to Maple Ridge in Greater Vancouver, from Manchester, to save money.
At Manchester, I was persecuted for my theological, philosophical, academic beliefs, and yet by God’s leading, I did not cave in, in order to eventually pass at Manchester. One must realize that there was no guarantee that another University such as Wales would sign me on. I eventually had to transfer from Wales, Cardiff to Wales, Bangor when my new advisor changed jobs, and then to Wales, Lampeter with a new advisor for my PhD, as my MPhil advisor was too busy to assist me any further. I have had a second new PhD advisor as well.
It is very difficult to find both a University and advisor to work with at a PhD level.
In the end, I have been able to write MPhil and PhD theses that state a belief in the sovereignty of the Biblical God through a sovereignty theodicy, and that the atoning work and resurrection of Christ and his culminated Kingdom is the remedy to the problem of evil. Even though the theses do not contain everything I would like to state, the theses essentially represent my views.
I learned that although God has given me the intellectual ability to pass MPhil and PhD theses, my passing or failing is primarily up to God. If God would not have found me the right advisors after Manchester, no amount of God given theological, philosophical, and Biblical academic intellect would have allowed me to be in the position of almost having a PhD as I do now.
I remain God’s child.
A less than fully supportive academic advisor at Trinity Western University had stated that Britain had basically abandoned the Christian faith. Although this is basically true, I was surprised how many Christians I met in Manchester. I made some Christian friends that were a great moral support to me, and I am thankful.
I became quite depressed in Manchester, not suicidal (AT ALL), but depressed. I would pray sometimes eight hours a day. I had no work to do, no daily relationships, no suitable Christian women to meet (to perhaps have an opportunity of a fuller social life with family potential) and unknown health problems, one of which was undiagnosed sleep apnea, which can lead to depression. I learned that I would to do further research on romantic relationships and that many women (and men) within the evangelical church take a rather secular approach to dating, and I would need to learn the 'game' . Basically I reason, for most evangelical women, having studied and dedicated myself to the Lord means zero in regard to romantic consideration.
The serious sleep apnea I have was not diagnosed until 2004. Here is another lesson, two good friends, both with Master’s degrees suggested I be medicated for my depression, but that would have been a major mistake, as my depression was not likely primarily caused by my circumstances, but by my serious sleep apnea remaining unknown and untreated. I refused to consider drugs and prayed through my problems to a large degree. As well with my severe allergies, which my British GP refused to treat with injections stating they were too dangerous, my fatigue level was high, but apnea was the main factor with fatigue. I have been on injections since 2002 here and they helped me moderately.
From:
Healthysources.com
sleep apnea can cause depression
Sleep apnea can cause symptoms of apparent clinical depression which may respond quickly to treatment of the sleep disorder. A knowledge of the intellectual and emotional impact of sleep apnea may be important in making a correct differential diagnosis. Unfortunately, many physicians, psychiatrists, and psychologists may be unaware of this connection which may lead to apparent symptoms of depression. If there is a possibility that a patient's depression is caused by sleep apnea, they should undergo evaluation and, if necessary, receive treatment for their sleep disorder. In addition, people with sleep apnea may need support in addressing emotional aspects of treatment and recovery. Informed, trained therapists can provide essential therapy and support to the patient and the patient's family in the recovery process.
From:
MySleepCentral.com
sleep-disorders and depression
Sleep Apnea and Depression
The National Sleep Foundation press release reports that:
People with depression are five times more likely to have a breathing-related sleep disorder than non-depressed people, according to a study at the Stanford University School of Medicine. The study is the first to show a link between depression and sleep apnea along with its related disorders.
Which comes first?
The report tells us:
It remains unclear whether depression occurred before or after sleep apnea, and to what extent sleep apnea contributes to the maintenance or aggravation of depression. Ohayon said the link between treating sleep apnea syndrome and the evolution of depressive disorders needs further investigation. He hopes physicians will consider the association between the disorders and depression when treating depressed patients. "Once people have their sleep apnea recognized, there is a lot we can do to help them," he said.
From:
Stanford University
Stanford
People with depression are five times more likely to have a breathing-related sleep disorder than non-depressed people, according to a study at the School of Medicine. The study is the first to show a link between depression and sleep apnea along with its related disorders.
Although it remains unclear how the conditions are linked, Maurice Ohayon, MD, PhD, said his study should encourage physicians to test depressed patients for this type of sleep disorder.
I hope to have my jaw moved forward 12 mm, which will cure my sleep apnea 99%.
However, I first need to find a way to cover an $8, 000 orthodontic bill, as I need to wear braces for one year prior to having my mandible and maxilla bones moved forward 12 mm.
Certainly, my depression in Manchester would have been substantially less if my sleep apnea and allergies had been properly treated. As of yet, my sleep apnea has never been properly treated. The CPAP breathing machine I purchased has helped somewhat in providing energy and helping me to trim down slightly.
I remain God’s child, as God is in control. I will only be healthy if God wills it.
Theologically, I learned practically concerning the problem of evil and theodicy. Theodicy is defined as:
The aspect of theology concerned with defending God and his goodness and omnipotence, in a world where suffering and evil exist. Blackburn (1996: 375).
Robert M. Adams notes that the word theodicy is from the Greek, as theos is God and dike is justice. Theodicy is a defence of the justice of God in the face of objections arising from the problem of evil in the world. Adams (1996: 794).
Contrary to what many would assume, my academic findings concerning the problem of evil and theodicy, paralleled my practical theological findings in life. My sovereignty theodicy not only made sense to me academically, but also practically, and it still does. Suffering still exists, but at least as I am an educated child of God, I have a reasonable general concept of my suffering. I have written on the problem of evil on this blog, but mainly on thekingpin68 blog. Please check out my latest article:
http://thekingpin68.blogspot.com/2008/08/manuscripts-supporting-new-testament.html
I also learned that I really do enjoy watching football/soccer live, very much. It was very enjoyable and relaxing to attend Arsenal matches with Simon, and the Manchester United matches were very good, even though I went to most of them by myself. In life, escapism and entertainment in moderation, can be a gift from God.
ADAMS, ROBERT. M (1996) ‘Theodicy’, in Robert Audi (ed.), The Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy, Cambridge, Cambridge University Press.
BLACKBURN, SIMON (1996) Oxford Dictionary of Philosophy, Oxford, Oxford University Press.
My satirical take?
Manchester is a great place to visit, but I would not want to live there. I put my time in for two years, and miss my friends there. I look forward to visiting for a second time since leaving, this October after my PhD defence.
Manchester at the time, had the largest amount of University students in Europe. On a Friday and Saturday night there were students all over the city core and nearby. Although, Britain is a home of much fine culture, some of the diction of the students and local Mancunians, was absolutely horrid when they were drunk. Chucky came to visit, as he was working in Belgium, and one weekend night/early morning perhaps, we looked through one of my flat windows and watched a man try to hit a woman as another man intervened. Howard and I could not understand a word of the dialogue. It sounded as if the persons had shoved their mouths full of marbles and then went on a night on the town.
There is the England of wonderful artistic diction, and then there is the mouth full of marbles (and booze) England!
Manchester, Picadilly
Manchester, Oxford Road
Manchester (photo from trekearth.com)
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Russ,
ReplyDeleteI have to confess, I did not read the entire article. I will, though.
I am more excited to tell you we have a new blogger to add to our network. Her name is Amanda. Visit her, and tell her I sent you. She said she will add whom ever I send to her link list.
Do We Really Have to Kiss Frogs?
To be honest, Jim, I only expect scan reads. Bloggers need to learn to comprehend and comment based on scan reads. There are just so many blogs to examine when one is networking, corners need to be cut...nicely.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Jim.
So, did you scan read my last comment? Or, did you scan reply? :)
ReplyDeleteI read it thanks. I made the contact and we shall see what happens.
ReplyDeleteSeriously though, two nights ago my eyes were blurry from too much blogging. Blogging time will be cut substantially eventually.
I think some bloggers with fewer links do not understand why I do not leave long comments and do want to dialogue often. They need to realize some of us are looking at many blogs (60+). Scan reading is a must.
Thanks, Jim.
Russ:)
I became a Nazarene when I discovered what Romans 6:19-23 referred to in the statement, Righteousness unto holiness.
ReplyDeleteVicki attended North Eastern Nazarene in Boston.
I realized you were scan reading a long time ago. Your answers often show that you missed something.
I don't often say anything because I want to be gracious. I'm just thankful that you read my blogs. And, my statcounter has showed alot of visits coming from your site.
Jim, if I miss something as in making a mistake, feel free to point it out.
ReplyDeleteIf I overlook something, that is another matter. Don't be too sure you know what is what. I mean this nicely.
I appreciate your readership and comments too.
Russ:)
And everyone, Jim and I have discussed this via email before, and I had told Jim I scan read soon after we met on-line.
Your PhD struggles are part of the reason I have two Master's degrees and no PhD, no plans for a PhD :)
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, I scanned - thanks for stopping by my blog today!
Thanks for the links, Amanda.
ReplyDeleteI shall add you twice. Once on each blog.
Russ:)
Jim and Vicki
On commenting
Since I have my own blogs to work on, links to comment on, and new blogs to look for, I do not personally comment in archives often. I email out archived links from my blogs when someone like Dan wants to argue and I leave it up to my readers if they want to comment.
They may be too busy and trash the email. I do not take it personally.
Yes, I do not expect everyone to respond to me every time. By the way, I hope Dan takes the hint and does return. He is teetering on trolldom.
I mentioned scanning previously in emails, but will touch on it again. When I comment after scanning an article and getting an idea of what it is about, I may pick one idea from the work (overlooking others I have viewed) and deal with that concept. This allows me to write many accurate comments from blogs in a reasonable amount of time. If I was to read all the articles from 60+ blogs 3 or 4 times for near maximal understanding of entire posts, I would not be able to leave many comments, because of time restraints and fatigue, which would hurt many of us involved in networking who want comments. I would also likely receive fewer comments in return and fewer links.
I have told Jeff via private email several times my theory that comments generate interest and so when a stranger sees a blog with 0s by article comments they may think no one cares about this blog and so what should I? Good bye!
I would much prefer many comments with scan reads than very few comments with very thorough reads of let's face it, my numerous tedious, but I hope important articles. And besides who wants constant dialogue and debate with long comments, most of us do not have the time, and to be blunt, even when one knows more than the other person, it is still very time consuming to debate and often it is a big pain!
I hope this clarifies my views for you, Jim.
Cheers.
Russ:)
I have told Jeff via private email several times my theory that comments generate interest and so when a stranger sees a blog with 0s by article comments they may think no one cares about this blog and so what should I? Good bye!
ReplyDeleteRuss,
Yes, you have told me that. But I didn't realize you read 60+ blogs a day! WOW! I too, like Jim, appreciate the fact that you leave comments at all. I know that all of us want everyone to read everything we write in our blogs, but, unfortunately, that is not often possible (I only wish it were). I've already been told by more than one person that my daily posts are too much to keep up with, as far as reading all of them - every day - and commenting on them. I sometimes have a tough time reading anyone else's blogs since I try to update my own blog daily. Scanning like you do is a good, practical solution, especially if you're going to make brief comments on 60 or more blogs a day! Sheesh, I could never do that! Maybe they should offer speed-reading courses for bloggers. I suspect there are probably many who do not read the entire article that other bloggers wrote, and only read part of it, and maybe only comment on the part that they read.
What a testimony! I hope that you will eventually be cured of this sleep Apnea.. I commend you for holding true to your faith in Christ Jesus and as a child of God despite the conflicts in your life. You seem as though you are a person who earnestly contends for the faith.. God bless you Russ!
ReplyDeleteThank you, Tammy.
ReplyDeleteYou are very sweet. I am glad you appreciate my academic testimonial.
Russ:)
Thanks, Jeff.
ReplyDeleteIt is not 60+ posts a day, but 60+ blogs (not necessarily one post per blog) within a week and 20-30 hours of intense work. My own postings are quite technical, especially now that satire and theology is an academic blog too. Everything I write, I hope is near perfect, although I make mistakes and revise. How could I expect to grow my blogs by intensely reading all posts I find, several times?
Tell me about it! The differences between most UK Christians and most US and Canadian Christians is stark, and its part of the reason I am so isolated in this condition.
ReplyDeleteA reformed Christian in the UK, and it would also depend on how far one is Reformed,is the novelty, as opposed to the rule.
The dating aspect you mentioned is just a symptom I bleieve of the liberalism that pervades here amongst the believing community.
Thanks for the support, Deejay.
ReplyDeleteGood thoughts.
Get well, as much as you can.:)
Russ:)
This is a great testimony to your conviction my friend. Perhaps a test on your stance with our Lord, I can’t say. God opened the way to set your course and achieve your God given purpose. Your faith held you fast to this objective.
ReplyDeleteIn Christ…
Tim
Thanks, Tim.
ReplyDeleteI have remained in the Lord.
Russ:)
Wow, a story almost modern day Job(ish)... Satan attacks, God's sovereignty reigns, the love and belief in the Lord stands firm... Great testimony!
ReplyDeleteThanks, Rachel.
ReplyDeleteI think God's discipline keeps me humble.
Russ:)
"I remain God’s child"
ReplyDeleteThe testimony of your faith while in these situations is very encouraging, Russ. By your words we can see the grace and strength that the Lord has given you and we Praise Him as we continue to pray for you.
GGM
Thanks, GGM.
ReplyDeletePrayer is appreciated. I realize that God within his permissible will can change my life through prayer.
Russ:)
A funny and well-written description of Manchester from another blogger:
ReplyDeletehttp://mancunianhusky.blogspot.com/2005/10/painting-broader-picture-of-manchester.html
Mancunian English already requires a certain level of concentration, and a drunk Mancunian might as well be reading Polish backwards.
ReplyDeleteFrom the link...funny.
Thanks.
We often hear that in life it is the struggles that make us stronger, but a lot of the times I don't think we realize that. You obviously have, Russ, and it's great to hear that some of the struggles you went through at Manchester were pivotal in shaping you in many different ways.
ReplyDeleteI think relating your experiences is also helpful for those of us who are considering an academic career. It can often be lonely there, as you say, especially when you are a confessing Christian who holds to orthodox beliefs.
All the best with finishing up the PhD and the defense in a couple months!
Cheers, Jake.
ReplyDeleteI reason the Lord has been with me through these difficult times, helping me to grow. I hope and pray for better times and continued growth.
Russ:)
Russ,
ReplyDeleteand his replacement stated that I had to change my theological views from Christian to secular in order to pass. In order to pass I basically would have had to stop writing that God was completely sovereign and yet the problem of evil existed.
At Manchester, I was persecuted for my theological, philosophical, academic beliefs, and yet by God’s leading, I did not cave in, in order to eventually pass at Manchester.
As others said, Praise God that you stood strong.
One must realize that there was no guarantee that another University such as Wales would sign me on. I eventually had to transfer from Wales, Cardiff to Wales, Bangor when my new advisor changed jobs, and then to Wales, Lampeter with a new advisor for my PhD, as my MPhil advisor was too busy to assist me any further. I have had a second new PhD advisor as well.
Sounds like you are learning more valuable lessons than just academics...like patience, practical trust in God's will, etc.
I learned that although God has given me the intellectual ability to pass MPhil and PhD theses, my passing or failing is primarily up to God. If God would not have found me the right advisors after Manchester, no amount of God given theological, philosophical, and Biblical academic intellect would have allowed me to be in the position of almost having a PhD as I do now.
Yep, that right there is a testament to God's sovereignty.
A less than fully supportive academic advisor at Trinity Western University had stated that Britain had basically abandoned the Christian faith. Although this is basically true, I was surprised how many Christians I met in Manchester. I made some Christian friends that were a great moral support to me, and I am thankful.
God always keeps a remnant. Praise God that he led you to those Christian friends.
I would pray sometimes eight hours a day.
Wow, that is amazing. If more of us would seek to do that, with intense seeking of God's will and sincere, intimate desire for Him (i.e., Psalm 42:1, "As the deer pants for streams of water, so my soul pants for you, O God"), we would see some awesome answers to prayer.
I had no work to do, no daily relationships, no suitable Christian women to meet (to perhaps have an opportunity of a fuller social life with family potential) and unknown health problems, one of which was undiagnosed sleep apnea, which can lead to depression.
maybe this is God's refining you.
I learned that I would to do further research on romantic relationships and that many women (and men) within the evangelical church take a rather secular approach to dating, and I would need to learn the 'game' .
Joshua Harris, in "I Kissed Dating Goodbye," takes a different approach. It challenges cultural assumptions about relationships and provides solid, biblical alternatives. "The book points out the problems with today's recreational romance," Harris says, "but what I've heard most from readers is that ultimately dating isn't the point-the book is about who God is and what it means to trust him with our love lives. And I think that's what has helped people the most."
I hope to have my jaw moved forward 12 mm, which will cure my sleep apnea 99%.
How does that help your sleep apnea? Will it improve your breathing? If so, how? Does that open up your sinues more?
Contrary to what many would assume, my academic findings concerning the problem of evil and theodicy, paralleled my practical theological findings in life. My sovereignty theodicy not only made sense to me academically, but also practically, and it still does.
I have found the same concerning belief in Election. It has helped me tremendously, not only in my understanding, but also towards my trust in God. Our beliefs influence our actions and thoughts.
Howard and I could not understand a word of the dialogue. It sounded as if the persons had shoved their mouths full of marbles and then went on a night on the town.
Wow. When I lived in Miami, there was at least an understandable reason why I could not understand most of my neighbors and people at the stores and throughout the city, that being because they spoke a foreign language.
The surgery will open up my airway while I am sleeping from now on, increasing my metabolism and correcting hormones that are currently not working properly.
ReplyDeleteI will gain energy and thin out slightly.
The praying approximately eight hours some days was good in that I showed faith. It was also bad in a sense, as I was trying to get out of my tough situation. I would have preferred to not have been so depressed and to have work related things to occupy my mind. I think I should have accepted some things more and worked to keep myself busy, even though I had no PhD appointment.
I could have started theological blogging then, for example.
Cheers, Jeff.
Russ
Russ,
ReplyDeleteI really like the Pics in this post !!!! Very nice, I'll have to visit UK someday!
:)
JME
Thanks, Jimmy.
ReplyDeleteAll the best with your endeavors!
Russ:)
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ReplyDeleteThanks, Ken.
ReplyDeleteI do not have a snoring problem, and have already had my tonsils and uvula removed, and nasal reconstruction.
I need the mandible and maxilla jaw bones moved forward 12 mm.
Russ:)