Monday, July 06, 2009

Short audio presentation on crazy cults on my birthday



From:

http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/top-10-crazy-cults.html







ANKERBERG, JOHN AND JOHN WELDON (1999) Encyclopedia of Cults and New Religions, Eugene, Oregon, Harvest House Publishers.

MARTIN, WALTER (1965)(1997) The Kingdom of The Cults, Minneapolis, Bethany House Publishers.

A more academic presentation from my other theology blog:

thekingpin68: hell

Additional:


Aimee Semple McPherson, the founder of the Foursqaure Church. I am not stating she was cultic or her church was or is cultic. But to me her outfit was weird and over the top.

I realize the Foursquare Church is Christian.

I find this presentation too theatrical. My religious skepticism is ignited.



From:

womenshistory

'Aimee Semple McPherson was the first famous Pentecostal evangelist, seeking publicity to broaden the audience for her religious message, using modern technology (including the automobile and radio) -- truly a pioneer in religious history. The Foursquare Gospel Church which she founded is now a movement with more than two million members around the world. But most people know her name mainly for an infamous kidnapping scandal.

Aimee Semple McPherson disappeared in May 1926. At first Aimee Semple McPherson was presumed drowned. When she reappeared she claimed to have been kidnapped. Many questioned the kidnapping story; gossip had her "shacked up" in a romantic "love nest," though a court case was dropped for lack of evidence...."

'In May 1926, Aimee Semple McPherson went for a swim in the ocean, accompanied by her secretary who stayed on the shore -- and Aimee disappeared. Her followers and her mother mourned her death while newspapers featured the continuing search and rumors of sightings -- until June 23, when Aimee reappeared in Mexico with a story of kidnapping and captivity a few days after her mother received a ransom note that threatened that Aimee would be sold into "white slavery" if the half million dollar ransom was not paid.

Kenneth G. Ormiston, who was a radio operator for the Temple, disappeared at the same time, leading to suspicion that she had not been kidnapped but had instead spent the month in a romantic hideaway. There had been gossip about her relationship with him before the disappearance, and his wife had moved back to Australia, claiming her husband was involved with McPherson. There were reports that a woman who looked like Aimee Semple McPherson had been seen in a resort town with Ormiston during McPherson's disappearance. Suspicion led to a grand jury investigation and charges of perjury and manufacturing evidence against McPherson and Ormiston, but the charges were dropped the next year without explanation.

Her ministry continued. If anything, her celebrity was greater. Within the church, there were some repercussions to the suspicions and scandal: Aimee's mother even split from her.

Aimee Semple McPherson married again in 1931. David Hutton, ten years her junior and a member of Angelus Temple, filed for divorce in 1933 and it was granted in 1934. Legal disputes and financial difficulty marked the next years of the church's history. McPherson continued to lead the church's many activities, including her radio talks and her preaching, and the financial difficulties were largely overcome by the 1940s.

In 1944, Aimee Semple McPherson died of an overdose of sedatives. The overdose was pronounced accidental, complicated by kidney problems, though many suspected suicide.'

48 comments:

  1. Hi friend, peace...
    Your post very interesting.
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    And... if you love books, read The Holy Qur'an please...

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  2. Thanks, Aristiono.

    I have not read through the Qur'an fully yet. I have a lot on my plate at present as I am completing a PhD on the problem of evil. Some of my thoughts on Islam...

    Previous on Islam

    From a Christian perspective, and from an Islamic one, there is plenty of disagreement on key issues. I would state that clearly that although both religions are monotheistic, the same God is not being worshipped. If God is triune, yet one is substance and nature as in Christianity, then Islam which denies the trinity has a different concept of God, and a different God. Brantley (1996: 1). Matthew 28:19 demonstrates that God is triune in his call to make disciples in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. In Acts 5:3-4 the Holy Spirit as God is described as being lied to. If Christ is God, then he is more than a prophet as with Islam, and Islam worships a different God. Brantley (1996: 1). In Hebrews 1:3, Christ is explained as the exact representation of God's nature who upholds all things by the word of his power.

    Contrary to Islam, if Christ did atone for sins and was resurrected, then to deny this would be to deny God's key work within humanity, and would indicate that within Islam a different God is worshipped. Brantley (1996: 1). Christ is stated to have died for sins in Hebrews 10:12, and is documented as being resurrected in Matthew 28, Luke 24, Mark 16, John 20-21, and Acts 1.

    BRANTLEY, GARRY K. (1996) 'Christianity and Islam: Points of Tension', Apologetics Press, Montgomery, Alabama.

    apologetics press

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  3. crazy cults 1.mp3

    crazy cults 2.mp3


    The above two links you have posted on your blog do not work, when I clicked on them both, it said Access denied. I think the Manson photo is funny in the sense of him sticking his tongue out at us. Rick b

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  4. Sorry, Rick.

    I do not know what to state Rick, the links work for me. It was difficult for me to get them to work from filefreaks.com. That error came up for me a few times initially. Perhaps you can try downloading them manually and see if they can play with different players. Mine are playing on Windows Media Player after a brief download.

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  5. hello Russ,

    Crazy cults yes indeed! you kept it interesting :) Great job!

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  6. It appears that Aimee did have a flair for the dramatic...

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  7. Supernaturally stupid??
    You make an interesting comment in your audio article on the top ten cults. How can people be so foolish as to get involved with such destructive, abusive, and manipulative teachers and teachings which are unreasonable, irrational, and inconsistent with reality?
    -Supernaturally Sensetive-

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  8. Enjoyed the video and bio on Aimee Semple McPherson. It seems she wanted to help people spiritually but she herself allowed a lot of controversy and corruption into her life which polluted her ministry and passion for people.
    -Same ol' Song and Dance-

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  9. Scientology, where is the evidence that supposedly supports this belief system? I'm tired of hearing about such a farce by actors/celebrities who use their fame to push their ideals and beliefs on the public and their fans!
    -Politically Correct-
    -No such thing!-

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  10. 'It appears that Aimee did have a flair for the dramatic...'

    Oh yea, and other stuff.

    Cheers.

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  11. 'Supernaturally stupid??

    How can people be so foolish as to get involved with such destructive, abusive, and manipulative teachers and teachings which are unreasonable, irrational, and inconsistent with reality?

    -Supernaturally Sensetive-'

    Romans, Chapter 1-3.

    A certain type of spiritual blindness. A religious kind as opposed to a non-religious kind.

    May our minds be freed by the Holy Spirit.

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  12. 'It seems she wanted to help people spiritually but she herself allowed a lot of controversy and corruption into her life which polluted her ministry and passion for people.
    -Same ol' Song and Dance-'

    Sounds reasonable. Cheers.

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  13. I cannot state that what I have read and heard about Scientology is very convincing.

    Cheers.

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  14. Aimee Semple McPherson:

    "Her revivals were often standing room only; on one occasion she met in a boxing ring, but had to hold her meeting before and after the boxing match. According to the PBS-TV American Experience documentary "Sister Aimee," she did, however, walk around during the match with a sign inviting the crowd to attend her service after the match and "knock out the Devil". On one occasion, in San Diego, California, the National Guard had to be brought in to control the crowd of over 30,000 people. People often stood in line to wait many hours for the next service to begin in order to be assured a seat."

    "The foursquare gospel focused on the nature of Christ's character - that He was savior, baptizer with the Holy Spirit, healer and coming king. The foursquare gospel consisted of four main beliefs; the first being Christ's ability to transform individuals' lives through the act of salvation. This life-changing experience separated Christians from non-Christians, according to McPherson. The second main element focused on a holy baptism. The third was divine healing and the fourth was gospel-oriented focusing on the premillennial return of Christ."

    "Every city where services were held usually had civic leaders in attendance, as well as pastors representing the local churches of many denominations. She made sure that Angelus Temple was represented in local parades and entered floats in the Rose Parade in Pasadena. Her illustrated sermons attracted people from the entertainment industry, looking to see a "show" that rivaled what Hollywood had to offer. These famous stage productions drew people who would never have thought to enter a church, and then presented them with her interpretation of the message of salvation. McPherson believed that the Gospel was to be presented at every opportunity, and used worldly means at her disposal to present it to as many as possible. Her sermons, unlike other contemporaries such as Billy Sunday, were not the usual fire-and-brimstone messages, but were based around a more friendly interpretation of Christian texts."

    "...in August 1925, McPherson decided to charter a plane so she wouldn't miss a Sunday sermon. Never one to miss out on an opportunity for publicity, Aimee had at least two thousand followers and members of the press at the site of her takeoff. When the plane failed after takeoff and the landing gear collapsed, sending the nose of the plane into the ground, bystanders were shocked. McPherson, however, boarded a different plane the same day (after obtaining a $100,000 life insurance policy) and completed her journey. She used the life-threatening experience as the narrative of an illustrated Sunday sermon entitled "The Heavenly Airplane". The stage in Angelus Temple was set up with two miniature planes and a skyline that was reminiscent of Los Angeles. In her sermon, McPherson described how the first plane had the devil for the pilot, sin for the engine, and temptation as the propeller. The other plane, conversely, was piloted by Jesus and would lead one to the Holy City (the skyline depicted on stage). Thousands were turned away that night from Angelus Temple in an attempt to view the highly publicized sermon. The temple was filled beyond capacity."

    "She was also skillful at fundraising. Collections were taken at every meeting, often with the admonishment of "no coins, please". When the $1.5 million Angelus Temple opened its doors, construction was already entirely paid for through private donations."

    "McPherson was the first woman to preach a radio sermon, and with the opening of Foursquare Gospel-owned KFSG (now KTLK AM 1150) on February 6, 1924, she also became the first woman to be granted a broadcast license by the Federal Radio Commission (which became the Federal Communications Commission in 1934)."

    from:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimee_Semple_McPherson

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  15. Thanks, Jeff.

    'According to the PBS-TV American Experience documentary "Sister Aimee," she did, however, walk around during the match with a sign inviting the crowd to attend her service after the match and "knock out the Devil".'

    I have seen the promotional ad for Sister Aimee but I never made the mental connection. Next time I will pay more attention.

    Okay, this is kind of bad, but kind of funny too, I had to chuckle at this point. This was something that I remembered when reading this morning.

    CNN

    SAN DIEGO (CNN) -- Autopsies on those who died in the Rancho Santa Fe mass suicide show that some followers of the Heaven's Gate cult -- including leader Marshall Applewhite -- had been castrated.

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  16. Many years ago, I went to a Church of Scientology with a black guy I used to work out with. (I was a Christian at the time, but I like apologetics, and I've always believed in the idea of "know thy enemy," so I wanted to learn more about them.) They separated us and an attractive girl interviewed me, asking me personal questions about my life which I believe were for the purpose of finding out in what areas of my life was I dissatisfied. When she found out I did not have a girlfriend, she focused on that and asked me why. Her questions seemed designed to make me feel bad about myself, and then she used that to try to 'sell' Scientology to me. Of course, to join, I would have had to pay them a sum of money.

    The current (conservative) total cost for the whole bridge to OT9 readiness is estimated at $365,000 - $380,000. And it could even cost more than that. (OT = "Operating Thetan")

    "I'd like to start a religion. That's where the money is."
    (L. Ron Hubbard, founder)

    "Xenu, also Xemu (pronounced /ˈziːnuː/) was, according to Scientology founder and science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, the dictator of the "Galactic Confederacy" who, 75 million years ago, brought billions of his people to Earth in DC-8-like spacecraft, stacked them around volcanoes and killed them using hydrogen bombs. Scientology holds that the essences of these many people remained, and that they form around people in modern times, causing them spiritual harm. Members of the Church of Scientology widely deny or try to hide the Xenu story.

    These events are known within Scientology as "Incident II", and the traumatic memories associated with them as The Wall of Fire. The story of Xenu is part of Scientologist teachings about extraterrestrial civilizations and alien interventions in Earthly events, collectively described as space opera by Hubbard. Hubbard detailed the story in Operating Thetan level III (OT III) in 1967, warning that this material was "calculated to kill (by pneumonia, etc.) anyone who attempts to solve it."

    The Xenu story is part of the Church of Scientology's secret "Advanced Technology", normally only revealed to members who have already contributed large amounts of money. The Church avoids mention of Xenu in public statements and has gone to considerable effort to maintain the story's confidentiality, including legal action on the grounds of both copyright and trade secrecy. Despite this, much material on Xenu has leaked to the public via court documents, copies of Hubbard's notes, and the Internet."
    from:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu

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  17. Thanks, Jeff.

    Hubbard converted his science fiction writing into a cult.

    He made the big money.

    I reason he is paying a big price.

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  18. SAN DIEGO (CNN) -- Autopsies on those who died in the Rancho Santa Fe mass suicide show that some followers of the Heaven's Gate cult -- including leader Marshall Applewhite -- had been castrated.

    Wow. And the article said, "Cult members had told acquaintances that Applewhite preached celibacy." It also said the castrations had occurred long before the suicides. I guess that's one way to make sure your followers obey what you preach!

    From the article, which I found surprising:

    "Among the dead was Thomas Nichols, brother of Nichelle Nichols, an actress who played Lt. Uhura in the original "Star Trek" series.

    In an interview on CNN's "Larry King Live" Friday evening, Nichelle Nichols said her 58-year-old brother had joined the group about 20 years ago. He had very little contact with his family in subsequent years, she said."

    I would say that the following, from the article, shows that the cult was indeed satanic:

    "Authorities believe members mixed the drug with applesauce or pudding, then washed it down with vodka. Plastic bags may have then been placed over their heads to suffocate them."

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  19. 'In an interview on CNN's "Larry King Live" Friday evening, Nichelle Nichols said her 58-year-old brother had joined the group about 20 years ago. He had very little contact with his family in subsequent years, she said."'

    You know what? That is vaguely familiar.

    Cheers.:)

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  20. Hey Russ,

    I've been very busy lately and have been trying to "read" blogs though not having the time to "comment". I'm enjoying your work and the comments. I'll be back in the swing of things soon, so be ready to hear from me soon.

    Take it easy, my Brother.

    GGM

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  21. Thanks my friend. I like discussion, but I also like to just keep the comment numbers up! It looks better.

    FYI

    At dinner on Saturday, my two dinner guests debated with me concerning my Hell article. I am good at creating work for myself.

    Please take care, Jason.

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  22. An interesting story from...

    BBC

    'In 1952, a number 78 double-decker bus was unlucky enough to be on the bridge when it opened. Back then, the lights would change to red, the gateman would ring bells to encourage the pedestrians to move off the bridge quickly and close the gates, and the head watchman would order the bridge to lift when it was clear. On this day in December, there was a relief watchman, and something went wrong. Albert Gunter, the driver, saw that the road ahead appeared to be sinking. In fact, his bus was perched on the end of an opening bascule, which was giving the illusion of a sinking road ahead. He realised that he would not be able to stop in time to prevent going into the water, and making a split second decision, decided he would go for it. He accelerated and jumped the three feet gap, landing on the north bascule, which had not started to rise. None of his dozen passengers were seriously hurt, and he received £10 for his bravery. He also appeared later on 'What's My Line?''

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  23. That Albert Gunter sounds like he was a pretty gutsy guy.

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  24. BTW, that "IsraelsMessiah.com" photo looks like something out of a Sci Fi movie.

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  25. If I wasn't a Christian, because I'm currently unemployed and jobs are so hard to find, and more and more people are becoming unemployed, I might think about starting my own religion. If I had a charismatic personality and was a strong leader, I might be able to get rich off of it. In fact, years ago, someone actually suggested to me that I start my own religion. The guy seemed like a bit of a wacko, and he was very serious.

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  26. My Dad states I should become a televangelist to get out of student debt.

    'Be heaallled'!

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  27. My Dad states I should become a televangelist to get out of student debt.

    'Be heaallled'!


    Yeah, and maybe you could go around and hit them with your bat, sort of like how Todd Bentley would kick them in the face with his boot, or punch them in the stomach, claiming that the Holy Spirit told him to do that.

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  28. You know, Jeff, I have many faults as finite and sinful in this fallen realm, but I have realized more and more since starting as a student in 1991 that I really need to be a warrior in this theology business.

    A humble, forgiving warrior, and not warrior mainly in the sense of physical violence, or the desire for it, but a spiritual, intellectual warrior who seeks God daily as the Lord first seeks me.

    Cheers!

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  29. ...but I have realized more and more since starting as a student in 1991 that I really need to be a warrior in this theology business.

    Cool. For me, ever since my dad died several years ago (and especially since I suspect he may not be in Heaven; and prayers will no longer help him), and I took a course using the "Way of the Master" materials, I have realized that I need to be out witnessing to people. I was doing that extensively a few years ago with a friend, which was one of the highpoints of my life other than my own salvation, but he went overseas to be a missionary.

    A humble, forgiving warrior, and not warrior mainly in the sense of physical violence, or the desire for it, but a spiritual, intellectual warrior who seeks God daily as the Lord first seeks me.

    Yes. "Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts." (Zechariah 4:6)

    That aquarium music (video) makes me think of a band marching down the street; it sounds happy, fun and playful to me, and maybe even silly, almost like a circus. That's what comes to my mind, anyway.

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  30. 'That aquarium music (video) makes me think of a band marching down the street; it sounds happy, fun and playful to me, and maybe even silly, almost like a circus. That's what comes to my mind, anyway.'

    That is reasonable.

    Cheers.:)

    As a Canadian child here are some memories of American (Bellingham & Seattle) television. Give a hoot, only you can prevent forest fires, by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, Kool-Aid: Oh Yeaah.

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  31. Ruthie, thanks very much!

    All the best to you and family.

    Russ:)

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  32. Re: Seattle/Tacoma/Bellingham TV shows when growing up - I couldn't forget JP Patches!
    Also Captain Kangaroo.
    And there were both Canadian and American versions of Sesame Street - the Canadian version replaced all the Spanish stuff with French material. There was also a Lutheran-produced claymation show called "Davey & Goliath"...nothing like VeggieTales back then.

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  33. Enjoyed the blog. Always interesting (and often sadly humorous) to investigate the cults.

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  34. Thanks for the comments! I see you know Mike from Finishing Well.

    I hope the mission goes well.

    Russ

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  35. I like the new template colors on this site! Looks very good!

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  36. Thanks, Jeff! I think I finally have it right on my third attempt. It only took me three years.

    The template is a copy of the one and original on thekingpin68, but with different colours, obviously. I liked my two other satire and theology templates but as noted on your blog they were never blue enough as I wanted dark blue background with dark blue printing on white. I include some dark red.

    With this type of Bowman template on satire and theology and thekingpin68, some may not like the compact nature but I find them good to work with and esthetically pleasing.

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  37. I just read in the newspaper that they have new proof that Global Warming is real! A local farmer's corn field got so hot that the corn popped and the animals all thought it was snow and they froze to death! This is sure proof that Al Gore is right. Tell your friends!

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  38. Hey Russ, the site looks good! I'm still working on my new site. I thought I'd have it finished by this weekend, but you know...employment, blogging, house work, family...and watching live "Wild Kingdom" out my backdoor kind of got in the way! :-)

    The Vid on my Facebook page gives you an idea of what we witnessed last week. I should think about taking my camcorder out with me next time! :-)

    GGM

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  39. A name for a pub with good food...Lion's Fowl.

    Thanks for the blog compliment.

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  40. Very informative and interesting entry. A small church of foursquare is only 300 meters away from home...

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  41. Thanks for the comment. I have visited a Foursquare Church.

    Happy Weekend.:)

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